Has FR "jumped the shark"?

rounser said:
*me wonders if there's some sort of equivalent to the Mile High Club that Elminster could now join*

Yes. It's the Fifteen-Thousand-Miles-Wide Club.

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tsadkiel said:
The Greyhawk metaplot, for instance, jumped the shark with the series of Vecna related modules, in particular the one that starts with the Circle of Eight being offed by V. (The implication here, of course, is that the PC's should care about the Circle of Eight - "Oh no! Mordenkainen's dead! How will Oerth survive?" instead of "Huh. Some high level wizard dude just died. More treasure for us, I guess.")

Oh how Greyhawk was hosed by 2e....it's tragic.

Vecna should never have been a GOD!
 

Ezrael said:
But Greyhawk hasn't jumped the shark, because it didn't get a chance to. All of the early GH modules (ones like Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, White Plume Mountain, Tomb of Horrors) weren't especially identified with the setting when they came out and are now almost all out of print. The last time Greyhawk got a setting was during the 2E days, and it was never as extensive as the Realms. (I don't count From The Ashes here...maybe I should, but I don't.) I would love to see Greyhawk get more than an assumption of default status in the D&D Core, a lame Gazeteer and some modules. (The Living Greyhawk Gazeteer was better than the D&D Gazeteer produced right after 3e came out, admittedly.) There's been some good stuff put out for Greyhawk...RttToEE comes to mind...but I'd really say that it hasn't had a chance to jump any sharks as yet.


Well the beauty of the early modules was that they would list places in Greyhawk that they may take place, but there was no metaplot. Die metaplot die!!!
 

Flexor the Mighty! said:


Well the beauty of the early modules was that they would list places in Greyhawk that they may take place, but there was no metaplot. Die metaplot die!!!
If you don't like a metaplot, why not just ignore it? Why must you stoop to such histrionics? No one is forcing you to use it.
 


RobNJ said:
If you don't like a metaplot, why not just ignore it? Why must you stoop to such histrionics? No one is forcing you to use it.

If you don't like them, don't read them. I'm sure there is some kind of ignore feature. Since I doubt you are paying to read my posts I don't see the problem. Man you are a depressingly boring person. No sence of humor...
 

Flexor the Mighty! said:


If you don't like them, don't read them. I'm sure there is some kind of ignore feature. Since I doubt you are paying to read my posts I don't see the problem. Man you are a depressingly boring person. No sence of humor...
You made the complaint, you ought to justify it. How does it cause you any harm that they have published a metaplot?
 

RobNJ said:
You made the complaint, you ought to justify it. How does it cause you any harm that they have published a metaplot?

It's a waste of paper, the pages the plot adds to the modules and the suppliments. EGG and the early crew had it right, give them an adventure setting, and let the DM fill in the blanks. Give them a site based adventure, and let the DM put the party there. Metaplots lead to things like the Time of Troubles.
 

shouldnt they in this day and age, make the metaplot the Web Enhanced download? Then everyone gets what they want. No silly metaplots in otherwise entertaining modules to distract you. Then for all those super cool people that are keen on the metaploting of this and that (purposefully nonspecific) can download and run wild with the thoughts of grander schemes!


Ah, what a beautiful thing.

So... picked up the CotSQ yet? any sight of aquatic predators?

I did download the maps from WotC those look like clear cut non-shark jumping maps. I didnt read all the way thru the adventure but spots here and there made my head swoon with visions of the Fonze. So wait, theres more good Drow dieties out there? just waiting to get some love?


uh...cool, I guess, er...something.
 

uh...cool, I guess, er...something.
They will milk the drow cow, and you will like it!

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