Skarp Hedin
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When one takes into consideration that the Book of Vile Darkness is not a Forgotten Realms product, its lack of Realms-specificity becomes less surprising
Has FR "jumped the shark"?
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When one takes into consideration that the Book of Vile Darkness is not a Forgotten Realms product, its lack of Realms-specificity becomes less surprising
The Traveler
Explorer
Re: Re: What about the Bull?
Wrong. It's out, I've purchased it, and several board members even ran it already.RobNJ said:
the Jester
Legend
J5P9VC said:
Waitaminnit!
You mean ol' Elminster >ahem< "did it" with MYSTARA??
On a ROCK???
Must have been one big rock...
tsadkiel
Legend
And while I'm here, a slightly more serious response.
Campaign worlds can't "jump the shark" in the same sense as a TV series can, because the world itself isn't an ongoing story, it's a place where stories happen. Campaign worlds often have metaplots, however, and these plots can and do jump over large aquatic predators with disturbing frequency.
The Greyhawk metaplot, for instance, jumped the shark with the series of Vecna related modules, in particular the one that starts with the Circle of Eight being offed by V. (The implication here, of course, is that the PC's should care about the Circle of Eight - "Oh no! Mordenkainen's dead! How will Oerth survive?" instead of "Huh. Some high level wizard dude just died. More treasure for us, I guess.")
Campaign worlds can't "jump the shark" in the same sense as a TV series can, because the world itself isn't an ongoing story, it's a place where stories happen. Campaign worlds often have metaplots, however, and these plots can and do jump over large aquatic predators with disturbing frequency.
The Greyhawk metaplot, for instance, jumped the shark with the series of Vecna related modules, in particular the one that starts with the Circle of Eight being offed by V. (The implication here, of course, is that the PC's should care about the Circle of Eight - "Oh no! Mordenkainen's dead! How will Oerth survive?" instead of "Huh. Some high level wizard dude just died. More treasure for us, I guess.")
Funny
This is a very funny post. You guys could all be comedy writers. I wonder if that's a common theme among gamers, especially those that end up DM'ing.
Metaplots that jump:
* Avatar Trilogy
* Manshoon Clones
* Elminster "trapped" in Hell
* Elminster as a chick
* Elminster doin' it with his Diety
Guess I wouldn't argue with that list.
This is a very funny post. You guys could all be comedy writers. I wonder if that's a common theme among gamers, especially those that end up DM'ing.
Metaplots that jump:
* Avatar Trilogy
* Manshoon Clones
* Elminster "trapped" in Hell
* Elminster as a chick
* Elminster doin' it with his Diety
Guess I wouldn't argue with that list.
The Traveler
Explorer
d00d, that's when Greyhawk, Ravenloft, and Planescape jumped the shark. The Vecna modules were just bad, bad plot all over.tsadkiel said:
Dr. Strangemonkey
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If an Elminster falls in the forest...
A theory I'm developing from this thread is the players are actually much more conservative and fond of evil characters than good ones.
I mean if the circle of eight goes down then we either think its dramatic or non-essential. But Vecna going out, or nearly going out and killing another beloved villain, is a real pain
If Elminister snuffed it in some really spectacular way, I have the feeling the message thread would be something like:
"In what spectacular way would you have prefferred Elminster to have been snuffed?"
But when Bane dies we both miss the guy and get annoyed about how he left.
A theory I'm developing from this thread is the players are actually much more conservative and fond of evil characters than good ones.
I mean if the circle of eight goes down then we either think its dramatic or non-essential. But Vecna going out, or nearly going out and killing another beloved villain, is a real pain
If Elminister snuffed it in some really spectacular way, I have the feeling the message thread would be something like:
"In what spectacular way would you have prefferred Elminster to have been snuffed?"
But when Bane dies we both miss the guy and get annoyed about how he left.
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