Has the horse left the barn?

[Mark Chance]

I suppose 4E is a well-done game. I just don't care to find out. I like Pathfinder, especially since I can get everything I need to play for free in SRD form. So, to keep up with the equine theme, my horse has sailed )), carrying me into uncharted stables wherein I shall try to put together my own game stuff for others to enjoy (and eventually purchase, thus providing needed monies for my Single Malt Fund).

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

I really think what you're describing has everything to do with the players' age and experience -- and players who are "bad" when they're young (ie who play differently than I do!) evolve their play styles over time if they're still having fun in the game.

There are lots of reasons a person might like or dislike an edition, but I'm not convinced that's one of 'em.

If you still want to be playing tabletop RPGs ten or twenty years from now, suffer the children.

That's pretty low-hanging fruit for any gamer to benefit our hobby as a whole.

 

[Minicol]

Nothing will take me away from Pathfinder in the foreseeable future.

 

[rounser]

I read Wyatt's interview and he said 5e will be much similar to 4e than 3e to 4e.

The same people are still in charge for 5E. So much for 5E.

 

[Beginning of the End]

With the 2010 releases of PHB3 and its "hybrid" multi-classed characters and the new "basic" beginners rules. Would you be willing to try it again? Have you already made your mind up about 4e?

The problems I have with 4th Edition are fundamental to its core design principles. Fixing many of these problems (like the fundamentally dissociated mechanics) would require completely redesigning and reprinting the core rulebooks. Tacking more stuff onto to the broken chassis of the system isn't going to make it functional for me.

More generally: When I'm looking to play a generic fantasy RPG, I'm genuinely satisfied with the game that was designed by Gygax and Arneson. That same basic gameplay persisted from OD&D all the way through 3rd Edition. 4th Edition doesn't play like that. And while I've dabbled with a number of different systems for fantasy over the years (Runequest, GURPS, FUDGE, Earthdawn, etc.), the only long-term fantasy solution I've ever played has been D&D. 4th Edition doesn't play like D&D; ergo, I'm unlikely to ever do more than dabble with it.