Hasted Sors, and the Metamagic monkey

[Lord Pendragon]

Because I like playing with colors, let's say that gold = standard action and green = partial action due to haste.

A sorcerer could do something like this:

Cast Empowered Chain Lightning + 5' step, cast Disintegrate.

However, if he wanted, he could also do this:

Cast Empowered Chain Lightning, move 30'.

The thing that I've seen debated is whether the sorcerer could take a 5' step with his normal actions, then move 30' with his partial action due to Haste. Such a move would look like this:

Cast Empowered Chain Lightning + 5' step, move 30'.

It states in the rules that you can't take a 5' step if you've already moved during the round, but some people argue that Haste is a special case.

[Edit] Reread the posts and wasn't sure who was saying what, so I changed the post to simply state the rules (or what I think are the rules ).

 

[Xarlen]

I'll point out that the Sage ruled you don't get more then one five foot step a round, no matter what. Same thing applies to ancient wryms; only one five foot step.

 

[Ridley's Cohort]

The thing that I've seen debated is whether the sorcerer could take a 5' step with his normal actions, then move 30' with his partial action due to Haste. Such a move would look like this:

Cast Empowered Chain Lightning + 5' step, move 30'.

It states in the rules that you can't take a 5' step if you've already moved during the round, but some people argue that Haste is a special case.

(Nice work with the colors, dude.)

From my point of view the argument for an extra 5' step with Haste is no stronger than the argument that I can take as a standard action: move 30', declare Ready Action, as Ready action: step 5' and attack. Superficially that looks OK...until you read the rules carefully.

 

[SpikeyFreak]

Well Ridley, the arguement went on for about 12 pages, then a new thread started and it went on for several more pages, so its really not quite that cut and dry.

In any case, yeah, a sorcerer can do something else the same round he casts a metamagiced spell, as long as he is hasted.

--Pro-2xFFS/Rnd Spikey

 

[Artoomis]

A full round action does not equal a casting time of one round. That makes this one easy - yes the sorceror can cast an empowered (or whatever) spell and still have a partial action from haste.

The question of what happens with spell with a one-round casting time is more difficult, and was debated at great length, coming down to:

Either:

It takes the whole round, so you could only get your partial actions if you:

Round 1: take partial action , begin casting spell

Round 2 finish casting spell, take partial action

(Gee, I like colors, too. I forgot all about them )

OR

You can combine your regular action with the partial action to cast a spell with one-round casting time. That is:

Round 1: begin casting spell, finish casting spell

Round 2: As normal for haste - one regular round's worth of actions plus a partial action.

I like the first option better (I think it follows the rules better), but the Sage likes the second one. Once again the Sage and I disagree .