D&D 5E (2024) Cleave+GWM Feat

[Zardnaar]

Like I said if you cleaved on an attack action it would apply RAW.

Maybe seems ambiguous. That's what I'm wondering.

 

[ECMO3]

Maybe seems ambiguous. That's what I'm wondering.

I don't see how. If you used Truestrike or it is an AOO or you attack as a bonus action you would not get GWM even though you could use cleave.

 

[Zardnaar]

I don't see how. If you used Truestrike or it is an AOO or you attack as a bonus action you would not get GWM even though you could use cleave.

EK using truestrike at 7th?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

When it comes to the "Hew" part of GWM, how immediate is immediate? If I score a crit and then make a cleave attack does it prevent a bonus action hew attack?

I notice that a hew attack can trigger a cleave attack, which could be against the target that triggered the hew.

 

[Plaguescarred]

When it comes to the "Hew" part of GWM, how immediate is immediate? If I score a crit and then make a cleave attack does it prevent a bonus action hew attack?

I notice that a hew attack can trigger a cleave attack, which could be against the target that triggered the hew.

Per Simultaneous Effects If two or more things happen at the same time on a turn, the person at the game table—player or DM—whose turn it is decides the order in which those things happen.

Tough as DM i would give precedence to one occuring immediately over others that don't.

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EDIT If as a Bonus Action you hit a creature with Hew's melee attack using a Cleave weapon, you can make a melee attack roll with the weapon against a second creature within 5 feet of the first that is also within your reach. So it must be a different creature.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Per Simultaneous Effects If two or more things happen at the same time on a turn, the person at the game table—player or DM—whose turn it is decides the order in which those things happen.

Tough as DM i would give precedence to one occuring immediately over others that don't.

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As worded, the cleave affect does not need to happen immediately, so I guess you could do the hew then do the cleave? Or two cleaves, as the hew should trigger another one? But related to the original question, the bonus action hew could occur during an attack action. e.g. character with two attacks crits on the first one, hews immediately, then continues their attack action. But does the hew qualify for the GWM extra damage, or, as a bonus action, is it not part of the attack action?

 

[pawsplay]

Cleave says you can make an attack roll, not an Attack action, and it specifies it can only happen once per turn (otherwise it could trigger itself). Attack actions can trigger Cleave, but the extra attack granted by Cleave is not an action of any kind.

 

[aco175]

I would think no based on the wording to say it only deals the weapon damage and not ability damage. Can the only weapon damage mean only weapon damage and not the other bits, or only weapon damage and the other bits are specific over general? I feel the spirit of the mechanic is to give some little thing to fighters and not something that should be gamed. It seems cleave is something for a mass of bad guys attacking and the fighter can kill two goblins where others get only one.

Could it gain power such as with a feat that allows you to cleave more than once when you are 5th level and have two attacks. Does the current rules for this intend this?

 

[Plaguescarred]

As worded, the cleave affect does not need to happen immediately, so I guess you could do the hew then do the cleave? Or two cleaves, as the hew should trigger another one? But related to the original question, the bonus action hew could occur during an attack action. e.g. character with two attacks crits on the first one, hews immediately, then continues their attack action. But does the hew qualify for the GWM extra damage, or, as a bonus action, is it not part of the attack action?

Yes you could make Hew's attack and then Cleave attack.

Because Hew's attack is made as a Bonus Action, it's not applying the extra damage from Heavy Weapon Mastery.

 

[FrogReaver]

As worded, the cleave affect does not need to happen immediately, so I guess you could do the hew then do the cleave? Or two cleaves, as the hew should trigger another one? But related to the original question, the bonus action hew could occur during an attack action. e.g. character with two attacks crits on the first one, hews immediately, then continues their attack action. But does the hew qualify for the GWM extra damage, or, as a bonus action, is it not part of the attack action?

OA can occur during attack actions as well, that doesn’t make them part of the attack action. Reaction to move after being hit against a multi attacking opponent.