Have or would you use the Vampire Lord?

[Sir ThornCrest]

Im interested to see your opinion of the Vampire Lord (i found it on wizard of the coast by typing in Vampire Template) Has any dungeon or campaign modules used the VL? Have any of you run one before, what happened?

The Vampire Lord (VL) is or would appear to be extremely powerful, ability scores thru the roof several spell like ability's used at will such as TK, Domination etc He has a 10/+3 DR...not shabby!!

So if any of you have used the VL I would like to know how did it turn out, with a brief description of the encounter. I would assume at the CR minamum this guy would wipe a parties clock clean!!! A 1oth level sorcerer, vampire, Vampire Lord would be what a 15CR??

TK at will- lift warriors 100' 200' or higher and drop them...while inviso flying from a far distance so the party even with see inviso or inviso purge couldnt see him.....this guy would destroy a whole party very quickly...
At will domination have the fighters, barbarians (those with low wills) attack the rest of the party....and let the chaos insue!


If your not familiar with this please look up on the Wiozards of the coast site and post your response/opinion

Im almost afraid of introducing one
Thorncrest

 

[Ion]

For convenience: Vapmire Lord

 

[Sir ThornCrest]

Ion what you thoughts on the VL?

For convenience: Vapmire Lord

 

[the Jester]

Pretty cool... I'd use it, though the DR might need fixin'.

 

[Sir ThornCrest]

So my idea is a 10th level Psion ?or Sorcerer ? + vampire +vampire lord = CR 0f 18?

Thorncrest

From the back of the monster manual the vamp is +4 LA? And the Vamp Lord should be that again I would think? If the Vamp lord is just a LA of 2 then thats way under what it should be.

Thorncrest

Pretty cool... I'd use it, though the DR might need fixin'.

 

[Voadam]

So my idea is a 10th level Psion ?or Sorcerer ? + vampire +vampire lord = CR 0f 18?

Thorncrest

From the back of the monster manual the vamp is +4 LA? And the Vamp Lord should be that again I would think? If the Vamp lord is just a LA of 2 then thats way under what it should be.

Thorncrest

No. The normal Vamp is +2 CR, +8 LA

The vampire lord adds +3 CR and does not specify for LA.

A 10 psion vampire vampire lord is CR 15 (just like their sample 10 wizard vamp lord is CR 15).

 

[Felikeries]

well ....remove knowledge (arcana),though they are crafty they are evil i think
bluntness rather than that effect is truer

also some sort of 'alternate armour' leathur skin,maybe..'vampire flesh'
that could allow a party to survive if they could get past it,yet still the
vampire is feared as an impossible advesary