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D&D 5E Have we misunderstood the shield and sword fighter (or warrior)?


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Bill Zebub

“It’s probably Matt Mercer’s fault.”
As an casual medeval fighter, I do indeed know the difference between a pike and a spear.
Yeah? Well I watch my two young sons duke it out with foam weapons all the time. And let me tell you, dual-wielding is a thing.

But the real takeaway is that a nine-year-old will beat a six-year-old every time, so I tack 3 years onto the starting age of all my characters.
 

ECMO3

Hero
Help yourself to a quick wiki search. There are no staves, cudgels, or any other far-fetched wooden poles except for weapons with heads attached. All shown are two handed wooden shafts with all kinds of shapes of weapon heads.

Ok I did that search.

From arms and armor online:
"Prior to the introduction of firearms, spears and other polearms....."

From Medieval collectables:
"We have a full line pole weapons that consist of single headed battle axes, maces, flails, spears, war hammers, double headed battle axes and halberds."

From Weapons of the World:
"The polearm, in particular the spear, is one of the oldest weapons in existence....."

From Les Arisans Azure:
"Spears, halberds, war scythes, and other polearms ...."

And finally since you mentioned wiki
"A spear is a pole weapon consisting of a shaft, usually of wood with a pointed head."

"A quarterstaff (plural quarterstaffs or quarterstaves), also short staff or simply staff is a traditional European pole weapon"
 


Digdude

Just a dude with a shovel, looking for the past.
From the internets (wilki)...A pole-arm is differentiated from a spear in that the penetrating 'edge' is parallel to the pole, rather than in-line, although many pole-arms also incorporate a spear point. So semantics maybe, but seems like apples and oranges.
 

From the internets (wilki)...A pole-arm is differentiated from a spear in that the penetrating 'edge' is parallel to the pole, rather than in-line, although many pole-arms also incorporate a spear point. So semantics maybe, but seems like apples and oranges.
i have literally never seen anyone use this definition of a polearm in my entire life, and it makes no sense, especially considering one of the main uses for a polearm is for...thrusting.

edit: also, this definition excludes pikes, so why are you even using it when you've already admitted pikes are polearms?
 

niklinna

satisfied?
Not to mention, it still doesn't alter the definition of the feat. That is to say, the definition of the feat remains the same, regardless of your definiton of "polearm". That is to say, what constitutes a polearm is irrelevant to this discussion.

But for some reason I'm wondering now whether a shovel counts as a polearm.... 😉
 


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