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[Brother Shatterstone]

I can e-mail you instead of annoying all the other people with them

Your not bugging me any... but I'm nosy. (and told you!)

 

[Rystil Arden]

Your not bugging me any... but I'm nosy. (and told you!)

Haha, you were correct, I'll admit. The problem is that I never know when I'm bugging someone because my Sense Motive check suffers a -10 penalty across the Internet

 

[Rystil Arden]

Your not bugging me any... but I'm nosy. (and told you!)

Some of the changes do involve the party-dynamic of Samira-Shalah, so if you want to hear it, I'll post it here. Particularly, Shalah came across quite a bit as either "Samira-lite" or "That other harem girl who didn't really do anything" especially when Goddess FallenAngel started not posting and making Isida play Shalah as an NPC. The characters are similar enough that I think Shalah needs some tweaking (that follows her character concept of course) in order to make her more different and interesting compared to Samira. Oh, and while I was making comparisons, BS, I noticed that you forgot to apply Samira's racial +2 bonus to Dex and Wisdom to your Reflex and Will save bonuses

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

Rystil, re-tooling is fine with me. What did you have in mind?

 

[Rystil Arden]

Rystil, re-tooling is fine with me. What did you have in mind?

It depends on exactly how far I would be allowed to change the mechanics. Some ideas: The way I see it, Shalah has several interesting sides that could be reflected by different choices. I see her as a character who was at first obedient to the wishes of those in charge of her life (Lawful Good) but slowly became rebellious and Chaotic, to the point where she escaped the harem and became a proponent of Freedom. As a gestalt character, she really has two halves, which I can address one at a time:

Caster half (currently BoEMII Bard): Clearly this should be some kind of specialist in enchantment type effects, but I don't have BoEMII, and if I could switch it to Telepath, Enchanter, or Sorcerer, in order of preference, without causing consistency problems, that would be awesome!

Skills and racial half (currently Geniekin3/Rog4/Seductress4): I don't see this list of classes as such a logical progression. I'd prefer something more along the lines of starting as Monk to reflect her obedience early in life [and the OOC thread says that some harems have this sort of training] then switching to Seductress as she moved to Neutral Good, and finally Rogue and or maybe Paladin of Freedom (I know the setting doesn't have any of the armoured Lawful Good chivalrous knight Paladins, but I thought UA's Paladin of Freedom might be a natural fit for Shalah once she escaped from the harem, especially considering the fate of her dagger/friend) after she escaped and became truly Chaotic and independent (I'm not sure that Shalah would have continued advancing in Seductress once she was free from the harem, and at most I'd think she would advance hesitantly, only taking levels every once in a while).

Depending on how much of this is acceptable, I'd like to change skill, feat, magic item, and ability score selection a tad as well.

Oh and specific feat question: Nymph's Kiss from BoED seems perfect (I mean she does have a Half-Nymph lover, right?) Would it be OK to make her exalted? She seems that way from "However, she is a deeply caring woman, and dislikes to hurt anyone’s feelings, instead wishing to spread only pleasure and happiness wherever she treads."

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

Rystil, I'm cool with the Telepath, and good with all of your changes up to the Paladin of Freedom. Psychic Warriors are the paladins (so to speak) of Keldev, and the modifications that would have to be made to the paladin of freedom would be extensive in order to get them to fit. The associations is one thing that worries me, as you have LN members in this party. Also, the proficiency in martial weapons and heavier armors does not seem like something she would every really develop. So... not so cool with the paladin, but fine with the rest of it.

Taking Nymph's Kiss might be ok, but just make sure you know the ramifications for being the only Exalted character in the group. You're going to end up being a ruler (theoretically) and I'll tell you straight up that all the current sultans are LN, as is the society as a whole. But maybe you could change that....

Changing skill, feat, magic item, and ability scores should be fine, just run all the changes by me first.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Interesting changes... The telepath probably makes Samira a happier girl so I/she have no complaints.

Taking Nymph's Kiss might be ok.

Do remember that you have to maintain that relationship...

 

[Rystil Arden]

Rystil, I'm cool with the Telepath, and good with all of your changes up to the Paladin of Freedom. Psychic Warriors are the paladins (so to speak) of Keldev, and the modifications that would have to be made to the paladin of freedom would be extensive in order to get them to fit. The associations is one thing that worries me, as you have LN members in this party. Also, the proficiency in martial weapons and heavier armors does not seem like something she would every really develop. So... not so cool with the paladin, but fine with the rest of it.

Taking Nymph's Kiss might be ok, but just make sure you know the ramifications for being the only Exalted character in the group. You're going to end up being a ruler (theoretically) and I'll tell you straight up that all the current sultans are LN, as is the society as a whole. But maybe you could change that....

Changing skill, feat, magic item, and ability scores should be fine, just run all the changes by me first.

Sure Paladin of Freedom was just a random idea, I wasn't sure if any of it was workable except the monk thing. If that's not OK, I'll just take those levels in Rogue and work on the Freedom aspect of the character by taking Contemplative in Shalah's chosen spirits next level (If I recall correctly, you need 13 ranks of Knowledge[Religion] to qualify for that right [don't have the book on me]?). Telepath is going to be really neat because the Attraction power, in particular will allow Shalah to synergise with Samira without overlapping (there's only so many times you can cast Charm Person on someone, but giving one of us a bonus to Cha-based skill checks will certainly help!) I'll need to know your changes on the Psion that you mentioned briefly in an early post on the OOC thread. I assume some of that is that you are using some stuff from Mindscapes as I saw some PrCs from the same. As far as exalted, my players tell me that I tend to play most of my good characters as exalted anyways. I mean, I'm not going to take Vow of Peace and then insist that nobody in the group attack anything or something like that If I follow the path of exaltedness in the BoED (Helping Others, Charity, Healing, Personal Sacrifice, Worshipping Good Entities, Casting Good Spells, Mercy, Forgiveness, Bringing Hope, Redeeming Evil) I think it fits in with Shalah's concept without causing problems for anyone else.

Thanks! I'll get back to you with the changes once you let me know what I need to do different from the base XPH psionic rules.

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

Basically I was going to have psionic people use the Mindscapes mental combat system. But I believe somewhere in this thread I abandoned it because I was about to implode from using gestalt (something I will never do again...). But I may take it up again. Do you have Mindscapes? Or the full Hyperconsciousness (which updates Mindscapes to 3.5)?

 

[Rystil Arden]

Basically I was going to have psionic people use the Mindscapes mental combat system. But I believe somewhere in this thread I abandoned it because I was about to implode from using gestalt (something I will never do again...). But I may take it up again. Do you have Mindscapes? Or the full Hyperconsciousness (which updates Mindscapes to 3.5)?

No, I don't, but I love psionics enough that I'm always meaning to buy it and then forgetting or convincing myself not to spend the money (and I know basically what's inside because I read all the free stuff about both books on Monte's site). So if you told me right now that I needed it, it would present me a good reason to convince myself that I need to buy it