Help advancing a wight


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Silveras said:
Darklone, Wights as written in the SRD do not get character levels; they advance by Hit Dice.

On the other hand, johnsemlak, if you want a nastier foe, you could use the Wight template in Savage Species to turn a classed creature into a Wight.

Adding some "residual equipment" to improve AC is not bad, but remember it should count as part of the treasure for the encounter.

I thought all intelligent creatures could advance by character class, for example you can add rogue levels to a succubus or cleric levels to a mummy.
 

Voadam said:
I thought all intelligent creatures could advance by character class, for example you can add rogue levels to a succubus or cleric levels to a mummy.

No, you need to look at the entries for each in the MM (or SRD). The "Advancement" line tells you how they advance. There are three types: "-", meaning they don't avance at all; "By character class", meaning you can add classes to them; or "X-Y (Size)", meaning you add HD and change the size at certain points.

"Lesser" undead, in the core rules anyway, do not gain by levels. I think this is probably to keep them matching up to the create undead and create greater undead spells.

Basically, it seems like only the strongest free-willed undead (Vampires, Liches) advance by levels.
 

Silveras said:
No, you need to look at the entries for each in the MM (or SRD). The "Advancement" line tells you how they advance. There are three types: "-", meaning they don't avance at all; "By character class", meaning you can add classes to them; or "X-Y (Size)", meaning you add HD and change the size at certain points.
Voadam has it right, actually. Any reasonably intelligent (in most sources defined as Int 3+) can take class levels, even if it normally advances by Hit Dice. That is why creatures like mummies or unicorns can have class levels and we get mummy lords and celestial chargers (both clerics) in the MM/SRD. Natural advancement by size does not prevent advancement by class. One could argue that natural advancement by class prevents advancement by size, but even that can be done.

No natural advancement, of course, means just that. :D
 

Knight Otu said:
Voadam has it right, actually. Any reasonably intelligent (in most sources defined as Int 3+) can take class levels, even if it normally advances by Hit Dice. That is why creatures like mummies or unicorns can have class levels and we get mummy lords and celestial chargers (both clerics) in the MM/SRD. Natural advancement by size does not prevent advancement by class. One could argue that natural advancement by class prevents advancement by size, but even that can be done.

No natural advancement, of course, means just that. :D

And, once again, we see the wisdom of the advice I never seem to remember: Look before you post.
 

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