Help me survive a twink's campaign
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Persiflage
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Ah, excellent, further validation of my philosophy that no matter what the question, if it starts "Which class is best for..." the answer is usually "Cleric". 
If the campaign's unlikely to get to high levels anyway, a Druid with the Shapeshift ACF multiclassed with Warshaper could work. If you don't mind sprinkling a bit of grated cheese around, be a Conjurer (which is no bad thing anyway) and take the Abrupt Jaunt class feature. Battlefield control + immediate action movement for the win
If the campaign's unlikely to get to high levels anyway, a Druid with the Shapeshift ACF multiclassed with Warshaper could work. If you don't mind sprinkling a bit of grated cheese around, be a Conjurer (which is no bad thing anyway) and take the Abrupt Jaunt class feature. Battlefield control + immediate action movement for the win
Cor_Malek
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Druid 6, actually. A wizard might be powerful, but DM can catch him with his pants down whenever he pleases. Druidzilla on the other hand? He doesn't even wear pants. High wisdom and constitution, natural spell feat at level 6, wildshape into bear, and with your bear companion cleanse the world.
Oh, and you won't be needing a rogue - just buy a bag of tricks.
And this is if you're limited to the core.
Clerizillas usually need some other books, but not many. And I'm sure there are some straight-core, menacing builds.
edit: ah, no levelling up? Cleric 5, then.
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StreamOfTheSky
Adventurer
Actually, I think around 5th level the martial adepts are overall the most powerful. A caster can answer more problems, but a ToB charactr is just...
I do want to know, what's your DM's stance on how White Raven Tactics works? By RAW, you can use it on yourself, but many many many DMs (including me) don't allow that. Because it makes 3.0 haste look balanced by comparison. Even not letting it affect the user, it's the best maneuver in the book. But if your DM runs it by RAW, I absolutely think your best bet is a level 5 Warblade or Crusader.
EDIT: And if you really only expect to face lycanthropes, or mostly lycanthropes, you can make a dedicated 'thrope slayer with Ranger and rock the house, you just won't have much survival abilities beyond medium HD and good fort saves. For some stupid reason, "shapechangers" isn't on the favored enemies list, but if anyone knows a splatbook that lets you (seems freaking reasonable to me)...
Ranger 5
Favored Enemies: Shapechangers +4 / something else +2 (I might do Undead if playing a Wood Elf w/ the 1st level racial sub. level)
Feats:
Improved Favored Enemy (+3 to favored enemy damage)
Steadfast Determination (can't fail fort saves on a 1, Use Con instead of Wis on Will saves)
Alt. Class features:
Strong-Arm Combat Style (Power Attack as your level 2 feat)
Solitary Hunter (lose animal companion, gain favored enemy damage bonus on attack rolls as well)
Basically just have a good str and con and use a 2H weapon, preferably with reach, maybe a spiked chain, most definitely silver. Against lycanthropes, you have a +7 to hit and damage. Almost makes Whirlwind Attack (using flaws and the Mobility armor enhancement to qualify) tempting if you could be enlargd with a spiked chain to deal death to large areas each turn...
I do want to know, what's your DM's stance on how White Raven Tactics works? By RAW, you can use it on yourself, but many many many DMs (including me) don't allow that. Because it makes 3.0 haste look balanced by comparison. Even not letting it affect the user, it's the best maneuver in the book. But if your DM runs it by RAW, I absolutely think your best bet is a level 5 Warblade or Crusader.
EDIT: And if you really only expect to face lycanthropes, or mostly lycanthropes, you can make a dedicated 'thrope slayer with Ranger and rock the house, you just won't have much survival abilities beyond medium HD and good fort saves. For some stupid reason, "shapechangers" isn't on the favored enemies list, but if anyone knows a splatbook that lets you (seems freaking reasonable to me)...
Ranger 5
Favored Enemies: Shapechangers +4 / something else +2 (I might do Undead if playing a Wood Elf w/ the 1st level racial sub. level)
Feats:
Improved Favored Enemy (+3 to favored enemy damage)
Steadfast Determination (can't fail fort saves on a 1, Use Con instead of Wis on Will saves)
Alt. Class features:
Strong-Arm Combat Style (Power Attack as your level 2 feat)
Solitary Hunter (lose animal companion, gain favored enemy damage bonus on attack rolls as well)
Basically just have a good str and con and use a 2H weapon, preferably with reach, maybe a spiked chain, most definitely silver. Against lycanthropes, you have a +7 to hit and damage. Almost makes Whirlwind Attack (using flaws and the Mobility armor enhancement to qualify) tempting if you could be enlargd with a spiked chain to deal death to large areas each turn...
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pawsplay
Hero
If you're going to slice and dice, I see no reason not to just go Fig 4/Bar 1 with a spiked chain or something, or Rogue 5 with two silver shortswords.
However.
The DM is a twink. Werewolves can have class levels. I can guarantee that slicing and dicing is going to be ineffective. You need to figure out some real disabling moves. Druid is a good way to go. i'm kind of thinking Sorcerer, spamming grease, reduce person, and ray of enfeelbement.
However.
The DM is a twink. Werewolves can have class levels. I can guarantee that slicing and dicing is going to be ineffective. You need to figure out some real disabling moves. Druid is a good way to go. i'm kind of thinking Sorcerer, spamming grease, reduce person, and ray of enfeelbement.
StreamOfTheSky
Adventurer
You know what...you can be an awesome Druid AND have favored enemy...
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Normally Wild Shape is plainly better, but it doesn't become good until level 6, so if it's a level 5 game, that's a lot of nice things to gain. Even if he allowed Solitary Hunting for the Druid animal companion (which is much stronger than a Ranger's pet), not sure if it'd be worth it at that point, though Improved Favored Enemy is still golden.
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Normally Wild Shape is plainly better, but it doesn't become good until level 6, so if it's a level 5 game, that's a lot of nice things to gain. Even if he allowed Solitary Hunting for the Druid animal companion (which is much stronger than a Ranger's pet), not sure if it'd be worth it at that point, though Improved Favored Enemy is still golden.
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