Help my friend price this item

durath

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One of the guys I game with has a question about pricing a magic item he wants. Here is his question:

"Quiver of Ehlonna which imparts seeking upon any projectile draw from it.

Quiver of Ehlonna = 1,800gp market price
+
+1 enhancement bonus = 2,000gp market price
=
1,800gp + 2,000gp = 3,800gp market price
or
1,900gp + 152xp to enchant


or would you handle this differently?"

Any suggestions?
 

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sorry, but that is TOO low

you are looking more at a scabbard of keen edges instead of a quiver of ehlonna, which essentially makes any weapon placed in it, a keen weapon (which is a +1 enhancement). this is more appropriate than your interpretation.

The scabbard runs at 15000 gold. to add the quiver ability is pretty mundane, and I would just add the prices together to get 16800.

Scabbard of Keen Edges
This scabbard is fashioned from cured leather and fine silver. It can shrink or enlarge to accommodate any knife, dagger, sword, or similar weapon up to and including a greatsword. Up to three times per day on command, the scabbard casts keen edge on any blade placed within it.


I'd also rule that the quiver would only affect 60 arrows at a time, since that is the capacity of the quiver of ehlonna, and could only enchant them three times per day with the same duration as the spell "Keen Edge". That's being generous in most cases, as most spells only affect 50 arrows, so there probably would be a 20% addition for the extra 10 arrows.

the problem in your logic is that you are adding unlike bonuses together as a single bonus. The problem is that the general makeup of calculating item costs is that any additional "features" you add to an item generally have their cost doubled. (a third effect would in turn be tripled).
the other problem is that you were calculating how much it would be to make the quiver "seeking", not the arrows. You could in turn make the quiver seeking, but it wouldn't do much damage. In turn, if the quiver granted this ability to an infinite number of arrows, then you are circumventing the original price for the "seeking" enhancement, which costs 2000 gold for 50 arrows, not an unlimited supply.

I think the 16800 is a fair price for an item of this sort, but I would definitely limit the number of uses per day (3) and the maximum number of arrows that were affected per use (50).

Dursk.
 

Re: sorry, but that is TOO low

Dursk Starkfire said:
The scabbard runs at 15000 gold. to add the quiver ability is pretty mundane, and I would just add the prices together to get 16800.

Technically, if you combine the scabbard and the quiver into one, the price of the scabbard would be doubled. So, it the new quiver would cost 31,800gp (30,000gp {15,000gp x 2) for the scabbard-like function + 1,800gp for the quiver portion).
 

You also have to figure in that the Scabbard is a command word item, and only usable three times per day (IIRC). The proposed item is use activated as a free action, with unlimited uses. At the very least, that should double the price, but more likely it should multiply it by 5 or so.

I'd price the item at around 75,000gp.
 

Re: Re: sorry, but that is TOO low

kreynolds said:


Technically, if you combine the scabbard and the quiver into one, the price of the scabbard would be doubled. So, it the new quiver would cost 31,800gp (30,000gp {15,000gp x 2) for the scabbard-like function + 1,800gp for the quiver portion).

You only double the price of the added property. Thus, if you wanted to add the quiver to the scabbard, you'd get off much cheaper by that method. (but see my previous post)
 

Re: Re: Re: sorry, but that is TOO low

James McMurray said:
You only double the price of the added property. Thus, if you wanted to add the quiver to the scabbard, you'd get off much cheaper by that method. (but see my previous post)

Oh, that's right. Double the second function, not the first. Brain fart.

EDIT: Something else just occured to me though. The scabbard already doesn't take up an item slot, so it's actually 7,500gp x 2 (=15,000gp). You don't wanna double a double, so my original estimation of the scabbard being double to 30,000gp is wrong anyway.
 
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