frankthedm
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IIRC Does not work. Monkey grip's wording and Goliath's racial ability give the same thing.ethandrew said:
Help twink a Goliath smasher
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blargney the second
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I had some fun statting up a Dragonborn Goliath Druid/Fighter/Warshaper. It had the shapeshifting variant from PHB2, and the damage output was pretty intense.
Creeping Death
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frankthedm said:
Wouldn't that allow a goliath to wield a huge weapon instead of just a large weapon? That's the way that I've always thought it worked.
frankthedm
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Both are worded to allow you to wield a weapon one size larger than you are.Creeping Death said:
Beckett
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Drowbane said:
And I believe Warhulk has a requirement of large size.
Depending how long the campaign will run, I'd say four levels of fighter for weapon specialization, with melee weapon mastery coming later.
Extra rage and reckless rage can help make the most of your barbarian side, although reckless rage does leave you much more vulnerable.
(oh, and I agree with frankthedm that powerful build and monkey grip do not allow a medium character to use huge weapons.)
Stay a fighter, or maybe 1 level of barbarian. With access to all of the books, there is truly a great feat choice at every step. Eventually you want endurance and iron will so that you can get Indomitable Soul and Steadfast Determination. I know you didn't ask for defensive feats, but in my opinion, these are just as important, and only the fighter can hope to have enough feats to spare on feat choices like this.
For offense, weapon focus, greater weapon focus, weapon spec./greater weapon spec., power critical, melee weapon mastery. Also, and this is important...from the PHB2, take the Overpowering Attack fighter class feature.
In fact, over 20 levels, you have enough feats to also enchant your hammer with the returning and throwing abilities and take ranged weapon mastery, brutal throw, power throw. Now, suddenly with the overpowering attack ability, you can as a full-round action, throw your hammer as if you were wielding it in melee AND do double damage automatically. Remember, you can throw with 2-hands and get 1.5 X strenth bonus.
Being able to throw your weapon and deal pretty much the same amount of damage every time (although only once/round) as you do in melee is very nice. I recently ended a campaign playing a dwarven fighter with the ax of the dwarvish lords, and it was pretty scary how much damage he could deal every round to creatures 100' away from him. The paladin became very jealous and much less anxious to charge into melee without me going in first.
Also, another fun feat is leap attack, but that's for melee. I think as a fighter you can take every feat that I've mentioned (I did), and more.
Remember, it's great than you can deal out 60 points of damage with each blow...but what happens when you blow your will save and suddenly find your target of choice to be your ally, the wizard standing behind you? Not good.
Ok, now I have a question...is goliath a template that can be added to, say, a stone giant? Or is it it's own race? I have a stone giant hulking hurler that I want to throw at my group, and I'm curious about the goliath as a template add-on, or even an alternative to the stone giant...sorry for the slight hijack.
For offense, weapon focus, greater weapon focus, weapon spec./greater weapon spec., power critical, melee weapon mastery. Also, and this is important...from the PHB2, take the Overpowering Attack fighter class feature.
In fact, over 20 levels, you have enough feats to also enchant your hammer with the returning and throwing abilities and take ranged weapon mastery, brutal throw, power throw. Now, suddenly with the overpowering attack ability, you can as a full-round action, throw your hammer as if you were wielding it in melee AND do double damage automatically. Remember, you can throw with 2-hands and get 1.5 X strenth bonus.
Being able to throw your weapon and deal pretty much the same amount of damage every time (although only once/round) as you do in melee is very nice. I recently ended a campaign playing a dwarven fighter with the ax of the dwarvish lords, and it was pretty scary how much damage he could deal every round to creatures 100' away from him. The paladin became very jealous and much less anxious to charge into melee without me going in first.
Also, another fun feat is leap attack, but that's for melee. I think as a fighter you can take every feat that I've mentioned (I did), and more.
Remember, it's great than you can deal out 60 points of damage with each blow...but what happens when you blow your will save and suddenly find your target of choice to be your ally, the wizard standing behind you? Not good.
Ok, now I have a question...is goliath a template that can be added to, say, a stone giant? Or is it it's own race? I have a stone giant hulking hurler that I want to throw at my group, and I'm curious about the goliath as a template add-on, or even an alternative to the stone giant...sorry for the slight hijack.
Goliath is a PC race:
Excerpt of the goliath chapter is online at the Wizards of the Coast site:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20040807a&page=2
Quote in part:
"Physical Description: A typical goliath is larger than the largest half-orc. Most stand between 7 and 8 feet tall and weigh between 280 and 340 pounds. Unlike with most other races, there is no appreciable difference in height or weight between male and female goliaths.
Goliaths have gray skin, mottled with dark and light patches that goliath shamans say hint at a particular goliath's fate. Lithoderms -- coin-sized bone-and-skin growths as hard as pebbles -- speckle their arms, shoulders, and torso. Their skulls have a jutting eyebrow ridge, wide jaw, and occasional lithoderms as well. Female goliaths have dark hair on their heads, grown to great length and always kept braided. Male goliaths generally have hair only on their limbs. Goliaths' eyes are a brilliant blue or green, and they often seem to glow a little from underneath their furrowed brows."
Excerpt of the goliath chapter is online at the Wizards of the Coast site:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20040807a&page=2
Quote in part:
"Physical Description: A typical goliath is larger than the largest half-orc. Most stand between 7 and 8 feet tall and weigh between 280 and 340 pounds. Unlike with most other races, there is no appreciable difference in height or weight between male and female goliaths.
Goliaths have gray skin, mottled with dark and light patches that goliath shamans say hint at a particular goliath's fate. Lithoderms -- coin-sized bone-and-skin growths as hard as pebbles -- speckle their arms, shoulders, and torso. Their skulls have a jutting eyebrow ridge, wide jaw, and occasional lithoderms as well. Female goliaths have dark hair on their heads, grown to great length and always kept braided. Male goliaths generally have hair only on their limbs. Goliaths' eyes are a brilliant blue or green, and they often seem to glow a little from underneath their furrowed brows."
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