Help with Changeling Assassin lvl 6

[Nefarii]

I just hate putting a feat in for 2 damage when there are 2 or 3 others I want to take. I think my next feat will be the hidden insight feat to shroud people without their knowledge and then cunning stalker or killer's insight or maybe Brutal Shroud/Insideous Shroud/Leaping Shadows. There is just alot of cool feats that I would look at first before the fullblade

What book is the executioner assassin in?

 

[Dr_Ruminahui]

What book is the executioner assassin in?

Heroes of Shadow.

 

[Neonchameleon]

I just hate putting a feat in for 2 damage when there are 2 or 3 others I want to take. I think my next feat will be the hidden insight feat to shroud people without their knowledge and then cunning stalker or killer's insight or maybe Brutal Shroud/Insideous Shroud/Leaping Shadows. There is just alot of cool feats that I would look at first before the fullblade

What book is the executioner assassin in?

The Executioner is a lot less teleport-y than the original assassin - it's a normal person with skills at killing fast and killing silently. No shrouds, but garrotes.

That said, to me the king of "Take that guy out of the fight and give him a good seeing to" is not the assassin at all. It's the Avenger - you do extra damage if the enemy tries to get away with one build option (and rolling twice to hit is always good). In second place is the Swordmage - less damage, but tougher and the swordmage mark makes them come to you (or suffer a to hit penalty and some other effect). And both types of assassin (especially the one you have there) are known to be weak.

Oh, regarding Melee Training, it only applies to basic attacks. Most of the time you are going to be using powers - so all it really does is gives you a decent opportunity attack and charge.

 

[Nefarii]

It was just brought to my attention that, how I was reading the feats was completely off.

How i was reading assassin's escape was that I could go into shade form at will after I was hit. I assumed that meant that I could use it every time I was hit and not just once per encounter. So my strategy was to go into shade form as an immediate interrupt, take half damage, teleport to an adjacent ally where i would be insubstantial and have cover, make a hide check on my next turn, then darting shadow to move somewhere else at will, and sneak back up on someone from the shadows and attack with CA.

But if assassin's escape is only once per encounter, then that kind of ruins that strategy. Which i suppose makes sense, taking half damage at will is probably a little over powered. I thought that the assassin's escape/darting shadow combo was awesome (would of been awesome if shade form was a minor action) and I was kinda basing my character around that.

any who... 1.) does this look better... 2.) then this one... 3.) or this one


====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Jin, level 6
Changeling, Assassin
Build: Night Stalker Assassin
Guild Training: Night Stalker

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 12, Dex 21, Int 10, Wis 8, Cha 17.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 12, Dex 18, Int 10, Wis 8, Cha 14.


AC: 21 Fort: 15 Reflex: 19 Will: 18
HP: 42 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 10

TRAINED SKILLS
Stealth +13, Bluff +13, Perception +7, Thievery +13, Streetwise +11

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +8, Arcana +3, Diplomacy +6, Dungeoneering +2, Endurance +4, Heal +2, History +3, Insight +4, Intimidate +6, Nature +2, Religion +3, Athletics +3

FEATS
Level 1: Mark of Shadow
Level 2: Assassin's Escape
Level 4: Darting Shade
Level 6: Melee Training (Dexterity)

POWERS
Assassin at-will 1: Executioner's Noose
Assassin at-will 1: Shadow Storm
Assassin encounter 1: Nightmare Shades
Assassin daily 1: Targeted for Death
Assassin utility 2: Cloak of Shades
Assassin encounter 3: Cloaking Mist
Assassin daily 5: Twilight Assassin
Assassin utility 6: Darting Shadow

ITEMS
Leather Armor, Light Shield, Rapier, Disguise Kit, Adventurer's Kit, Camouflaged Clothing, Death Shroud Ki Focus +1, Repeating crossbow, Crossbow Bolts (40)


====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Jin, level 6
Changeling, Assassin
Build: Night Stalker Assassin
Guild Training: Night Stalker

(Same everything else just different feats)

FEATS
Level 1: Killer's Insight
Level 2: Hidden Insight
Level 4: Insidious Shroud
Level 6: Brutal Shroud

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Jin, level 6
Changeling, Assassin
Build: Night Stalker Assassin
Guild Training: Night Stalker

(Same everything else just different feats)


FEATS
Level 1: Assassin's cloak
Level 2: Leaping Shadows
Level 4: Assassin's Escape
Level 6: Cunning Striker



I made a 6th lvl avenger as well, and though I can easily see how it would be more powerful (at least in terms of being able to take a creature one on one and controlling the battlefield), I still want to be more ninja like. The trained skills of Stealth +13, Bluff +13, Perception +7, Thievery +13, Streetwise +11 seem completely awesome, adding to it the changeling tactic of a +5 bluff check (with the disguise kit I could have a +20 to bluff). I guess what I am struggling at now is to figure out the feats, if the extra shroud damage is worth it or if I should be going for attacks of opportunity and CA

btw thanks again for the help, at this point i know it must be getting redundant. I think i am just going to get the old figurines out and just start play testing all the feats to see which ones mesh the best together.