Heroes, Inc. : Rasheman

Alethia looked at Shando and bowed slightly. "You are right Shando." Alethia said. "Perhaps.... From the sound of it, the Thayans or the Twice damned used natural attacks against the Witches in order to make it seem like the land was turning against them."

Alethia waved her hand towards the witch, Sara. "She bears no demonic taint, nor any evil taint, so it is clear that the Thayans are lying in that regard." she grinned at the witch. "Unless of course the spirits of the land do not like the more lawfully inclined that is."

"My next suggestion would be, to contact the Rashemi spirits to see what their stance is on this. My hunch is, that the spirits who attacked the witches were controlled by very powerful magicks, so they aren't going to be very happy with the Thayans or whoever is behind this in any case." she looked grim.

"From what our captive has told us, the populace is mostly receptive, taking the religous signs at face value." she looked at the monk. "We need to prove to the populace that those religious signs have been faked." she gazed upwards and the two small celestials swooped down.

"My friends, can you contact the Rashemi spirits? Can you see where they stand with the witches and the Thayans?" she asked the small, bouncy Archons.

Alethia smiled again, but it was sad. "My other feeling is this, the Zulkir who is in charge here is also most likely reporting directly to the Twice Damned; he is also the one most likely to have the kind of knowledge and power that would enable one to control the Rashemi spirits who attacked the witches." she shook her head. "My offer stands. If it comes down to it, I will gladly act as bait in order to draw this wizard out and maybe whichever Twice Damned he reports too."

"Shando, I just don't see a path here that does not include violence or death. It is war of the nastiest kind. We have been constantly outmanuvered and outflanked. They have been four steps ahead of us at worst and at best," she let that trail off, before speaking again.

"If you have any ideas that do not include violence or bloodshed, I would gladly take that path before the one littered with the bodies of enemy soldiers." she said tiredly.
 
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"That precept may be true, Shando, but one thing I know is that when violence is necessary, it must be used as efficiently and effectively as possible. The Zulkir won't be the first man I've killed in cold blood, and he won't be the last. The law may call it murder, but morally, it's justice. We are not discussing cutting down some innocent man here, he's a Zulkir. If anybody deserved to be killed, it's him," Dyria said.
 

Falkus said:
"That precept may be true, Shando, but one thing I know is that when violence is necessary, it must be used as efficiently and effectively as possible. The Zulkir won't be the first man I've killed in cold blood, and he won't be the last. The law may call it murder, but morally, it's justice. We are not discussing cutting down some innocent man here, he's a Zulkir. If anybody deserved to be killed, it's him," Dyria said.

"I marvel at your wisdom to be able to see into the heart of a person and judge them guilty in the absence of evidence. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give both? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement, if you cannont also give life. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."

Hawkeye
(Hey, if you are going to paraphrase someone, paraphrase the best. ;) :p )
 

Hawkeye said:
"I marvel at your wisdom to be able to see into the heart of a person and judge them guilty in the absence of evidence. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give both? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement, if you cannont also give life. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."

Hawkeye
(Hey, if you are going to paraphrase someone, paraphrase the best. ;) :p )

(Does this imply that once a cleric hits 9th level, they can in fact kill at will?)
 

Hawkeye said:
"Wycklaren Sara, with the exception of the treatment of the Wycklaren, how are other matters in the city. How are the common people treated? Is their property taken from them? Are they punished for the slightest infraction? Are they being enslaved? Is it possible that our action here may actually do them more harm than good? Its important to know so we may choose the right path."[/color]

Hawkeye

Sara seems annoyed "Spoken like someone who does not know the Thayans very well. Look, I've told you everything you need. Now I REALLY don't feel too good... please, just let me sleep."
 

Falkus said:
"That precept may be true, Shando, but one thing I know is that when violence is necessary, it must be used as efficiently and effectively as possible. The Zulkir won't be the first man I've killed in cold blood, and he won't be the last. The law may call it murder, but morally, it's justice. We are not discussing cutting down some innocent man here, he's a Zulkir. If anybody deserved to be killed, it's him," Dyria said.

Kayla adds "And a Red Wizard must murder many of their friends as well as heaps of their enemies to become a Zulkir. They are so given over to darkness that they are no different than demons."
 

Maggie adds: "So what are the details of the "use Alethia as bait" plan? We still also have our origional ideas about scouting their military bases, checking with the commoners and the underworld, and meeting with the underground, and I believe Kayla still wants to go to Tiger Lodge herself. So much to do, so little time...split up as we'd planned?"
 

"I have no doubts as to the evil of the Zulkir. I have doubts about the methods we are discussing to defeat them, methods that the Zulkir themselves may have used to remove their rivals. That is my concern. We do not need to be acting like a band of assassins. If the Thayvians are holding the spirits of this land in bondage, maybe by rescuing them, we can do more good for the people here and harm the Thayvians and draw out the Twice Damned. That should be our true target. Instead we seem to be entertaining the thought "Kill them all and let the gods sort them out. If that is what we have come to, then the Twice Damned have already won, as we will truly no longer be a force for good. If you can't see that, then maybe you have already stepped too far into the darkness"

Hawkeye
 

Alethia nodded. "Taavi and Charissa can check the condition of the spirits as well as seeing who they truly favor." she replied. "Killing them all was never my goal. Nor should it be our ultimate goal," she looked at each in turn. "Once we've figured out how the land's spirits fare and what their stance is, then we can formulate a real plan."

"Our job was a heck of a lot easier when a well placed arrow solved the issue." she said with a wry grin. You don't know if she means the group as a whole or just herself and Naverone.

As for the 'bait' plan, let us worry about it when the time comes. The demon rumbled. We really do not have enough information to act nor to plan effectively. Going off half cocked is going to cause far more problems than solve them. Right now, we are all reacting instinctively instead of thinking. That will only work in our enemies favor. For now, let us gather what intelligence we can and then make plans when we are more calm.
 
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