Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#27)---10/15/07-'The Kindness of Strangers'

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The Kindness of Strangers​

Star: Noah Gray-Cabey (Micah Sanders), Greg Grunberg (Matt Parkman), Hayden Panettiere (Claire Bennet), Jack Coleman (Mr. Bennet / HRG), Dana Davis (Monica Dawson), Dania Ramirez (Maya Herrera), Sendhil Ramamurthy (Mohinder Suresh), Milo Ventimiglia (Peter Petrelli)


Recurring Role: Adair Tishler (Molly Walker), Cristine Rose (Angela Petrelli), Shalim Ortiz (Alejandro Herrera), Ashley Crow (Mrs. Bennett)

Guest Star: Nichelle Nichols (Nana), Carlon Jeffrey (Damon Dawson)

Monica starts to exhibit new abilities while working with Micah, Nana, and Dawson. Nana is the grandmother of Micah, Monica, and Dawson. They all currently reside in New Orleans. Matt asks Molly to locate the man in her dreams. He may be the newest threat to the Heroes. Maya and Alejandro continue their trek to the U.S. Both Claire and her father are suspicious of one another. Angela reveals a lot of her secrets.​
 
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Both Claire and her father are suspicious of one another.

This line has me a little concerned. They already did this last year. And Claire was already exposed to HRG's bag-n-tag tendencies via Matt and Ted. So... why is she surprised to meet someone else her father grabbed?

I know she's a teenager and she's got hormones and she really likes this guy... but moving in the direction of distrust seems really unnatural, especially after everything her father did for her last season.

I can understand why HRG is suspicious, after seeing the painting. As for the rest, I'll just have to wait and see.
 


Wow, that picture is huge. Any chance it could be shrunk down?

I had a thought about Peter. We saw him phase through the ropes he was bound with. That means he likely picked up DL's power. DL probably didn't survive Kirby Plaza, per the last episode. Which means Peter must have gotten his power there.

Firstly, his range for picking up powers had improved significantly over the last half of the season. I wonder if eventually Peter reaches a sort of deific status, where he just absorbs every power on Earth by being alive. He could still be killed (Maya's power maybe, or a shard to the brain) but it becomes increasingly more difficult as Peter can basically do whatever he wants.

Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, it means he also picked up Molly's location ability. Which means he could hunt down the big bad if he's so eeeeeevil and powerful, per Molly. He has a good chance of knowing about it, since he was with Bennett.
 

Ok i know I"m only 20 minutes in but this episode needs to do a lot to redeem itself in 40 minutes.

I just don't buy those twins happen to find Sylar on the side of the road. All the roads in MExico all the immigrants trying to get across the border and they run into each other. That is the lamest introductin ever.

Second, ok, why does this show seem to hate minorities. The mexicans are runaways, DL is dead. The black girl is an aspiring singer at a fast food restaurant whose only goal is to want to be manager at a fast food restaurant. The black kid is ultra ghetto. We all do not act like that. But this is the image. I have a big problem when the kid with mixed heritage being the smarter, less ghetto of the two. Why can't the other kid be normal. (because he has black parents?).

Then there was the whole need money for pay per view stupid convo. YOu have to order a pay per view either on the phone, internet or in person and last i checked none of them is taking cash from a 10 year old. So even if he had the cash he couldn't order it. 65 bucks for a pay per view, boxing matches aren't even that price.
 

DonTadow said:
Ok i know I"m only 20 minutes in but this episode needs to do a lot to redeem itself in 40 minutes.

Funny, I found this to be the best of the season so far. Not only that, but the first part of it was definitely good stuff.

I just don't buy those twins happen to find Sylar on the side of the road. All the roads in MExico all the immigrants trying to get across the border and they run into each other. That is the lamest introductin ever.

This is the kind of thing that's always happened in comics, and did happen in the first season of Heroes. Everyone kept crossing paths in the casino in Las Vegas last season, which was okay for certain characters, but Hiro/Ando being in the SAME one as everyone else is definitely contrived.

But, again, that's just how it works.

Second, ok, why does this show seem to hate minorities. The mexicans are runaways, DL is dead. The black girl is an aspiring singer at a fast food restaurant whose only goal is to want to be manager at a fast food restaurant. The black kid is ultra ghetto. We all do not act like that. But this is the image. I have a big problem when the kid with mixed heritage being the smarter, less ghetto of the two. Why can't the other kid be normal. (because he has black parents?).

Technically, Maya and her brother aren't Mexican. But they're runaways for a reason. Her power KILLS people. DL died last season, or at least took the bullet wound that was pretty much going to kill him. Sad, because I LIKED DL, but hey.

The girl (something Dawson...can't remember her first name) has a goal to be a manager to make more money to help her family in New Orleans which is having serious trouble thanks to a certain hurricane. THAT seems pretty damned noble to me. She also wants to get back into school, etc. Its NOT just a stereotype...in fact, she looks like a character who could develop into one of the more interesting amongst the cast.

As for the kid. That's definitely an annoying stereotype there, but at the same time, a lot of kids do act like that.

Then there was the whole need money for pay per view stupid convo. YOu have to order a pay per view either on the phone, internet or in person and last i checked none of them is taking cash from a 10 year old. So even if he had the cash he couldn't order it. 65 bucks for a pay per view, boxing matches aren't even that price.

I haven't used pay per view in...so many years it isn't funny, so this went right past me. At that same time, though, I could see something costing ungodly amounts of money for a little thing like wrestling.
 

Ankh-Morpork Guard said:
The girl (something Dawson...can't remember her first name) has a goal to be a manager to make more money to help her family in New Orleans which is having serious trouble thanks to a certain hurricane. THAT seems pretty damned noble to me. She also wants to get back into school, etc. Its NOT just a stereotype...in fact, she looks like a character who could develop into one of the more interesting amongst the cast.

Her name was Monica, and it sounds like she had a pretty good handle on how to work herself into a better life when Katrina hit New Orleans, and now she's come up with a re-worked plan to do the same.

I'm mostly in agreement with DonTadow about the other issues, but for her Monica I'll disagree.
 

So she's not good enough to go to school? move out of state? go to college? get a trade skill? Her only option is a fast food manager and she can't even get that. Sorry that's stereotypical and very offensive. It's even more offensive that peopel come off with the concept that she "sho is noble for tryin to be manager at mcdonalds". I never expect other people to understand what its like to be a minority. Wheras you see "courageous" I see short sighted and low dream.

In the first season there were common places they met, near LInderman's casino, near that appartment buildingm Isaac's studio. There was NEVER them just walking on some random street and meeting other heroes and then buddying with them. It made sense because everyone was drawn to Linderman, he connected most of the dots. Same with the apartment.

WAsn't sylar in the middle of no where last episode. This is just absolutely lame. This goes beyond the comic book meeting. This is just the writers being lazy and taking us for granted. My wife and i let out a collective groan when we saw that it was Sylar on the road. This was the worst scene and writing I've seen in Heroes so far.

This episode revealed some things, asthey all do, but the pacefelt slow and its purpose was more to move along some of the stagnet plots instead of entertain.
 

DonTadow said:
Ok i know I"m only 20 minutes in but this episode needs to do a lot to redeem itself in 40 minutes.

I thought that was agreat episode myself... finally starting to answer some questions, but like a good serial, bringing up more.

DonTadow said:
I just don't buy those twins happen to find Sylar on the side of the road. All the roads in MExico all the immigrants trying to get across the border and they run into each other. That is the lamest introductin ever.

Eh... based on comics, as said above. Not that big of a deal in my mind.

DonTadow said:
Second, ok, why does this show seem to hate minorities. The mexicans are runaways, DL is dead. The black girl is an aspiring singer at a fast food restaurant whose only goal is to want to be manager at a fast food restaurant. The black kid is ultra ghetto. We all do not act like that. But this is the image. I have a big problem when the kid with mixed heritage being the smarter, less ghetto of the two. Why can't the other kid be normal. (because he has black parents?).

And the Indian is the key to one of the solutions (the powers plague) for the season. And the two Japanese are two of the funniest and most enthusiastic (this episode was only missing Hiro). All in all, considering most shows barely have even one member of any minority, I'd say Heroes is doing pretty good.

DonTadow said:
Then there was the whole need money for pay per view stupid convo. YOu have to order a pay per view either on the phone, internet or in person and last i checked none of them is taking cash from a 10 year old. So even if he had the cash he couldn't order it. 65 bucks for a pay per view, boxing matches aren't even that price.

You know that. I wasn't quite aware of it (but kind of figured it). I doubt my grandmother would know that. Are you so sure a 10 year old wuld know it - the price, probably. But the whole process? I doubt it.
 

DonTadow said:
So she's not good enough to go to school? move out of state? go to college? get a trade skill? Her only option is a fast food manager and she can't even get that. Sorry that's stereotypical and very offensive. It's even more offensive that people come off with the concept that she "sho is noble for tryin to be manager at mcdonalds". I never expect other people to understand what its like to be a minority. Wheras you see "courageous" I see short sighted and low dream.

Urf? I thought that becoming a manager would give her the money to go back to school. Nothing ever said that she's not good enough to go to school. As for moving out of state, she's the primary breadwinner for a family of 3 (now 4). She needs to earn enough money for everyone to survive and pay for school.

Being a manager was a stepping stone to finishing college and starting a career. It was never her ultimate goal.
 

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