Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#34)---12/03/07-'POWERLESS' Mid-Season Finale (or the End)

Taelorn76 said:
b) as discussed earlier Peter's blood may not work, since he is a copy
I'm not sure I get the thinking at work on that one. He has the healing ability, and it's saved his life more than once without him having to actively "load" it like it was a computer program. If he's got the power, he's got the power. The magical universal panacea blood is part of the power.
 

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Taelorn76 said:
Just some notes

d) Jessica's split personality was not a power, her mind could not deal with it so it split
e) how would he bring him back with out taking him to Claire


Peter and Lenderman, don't really know for sure, Lenderman had been around his brother and family. I don't remember him meeting DL either but he has his power.
d) Nathan's mind showed the same, with the mirrored Nuke Baked Nathan...so, just saying. Also, Peter can just go off the deep end and build his brother in his mind, Bob talked about this happening.
e) I look to him as an example, shot in head, body picked up and carried to some holding area for the Company, Mohinder giving him the blood, bingo back to life. Don't have a timeline but bet within 24 hours you are still a go, for the old life juice. We also have not seen everyone that works for the Company, nor their powers.
 


Kheti sa-Menik said:
That's actually crap.
You're funny (but not in a funny way).

I enjoyed the episode. I appreciate that Hiro made a hard choice and from the look of it in the end, he will live with the consquences of that choice for a long time.

I think Niki's dying (no body, who knows) will be good for Micah's development into a hero, what with both of his parents dying heroically.

Curious to know what they're going to do with Syler, and I'm glad he's back.

Maybe Peter TK opened the door because Adam didn't say "Hey, Peter, can you get in there and grab the virus for me?" I don't think Adam wanted Peter to get to it, and I doubt he could have opened the door from the inside. Really, if you're going to complain about which power he used to open the door, phasing isn't a good one. He was around Niki when she walloped the crap out of Sylar. He should have her strength and know it.

I hope Peter opens a ginormous can of whoopass on whoever shot Nathan (with Parkman's help).

Yay! Sylar shot whatsherface! Boo, they fixed whatsherface. The look on his face right before he shot her was great.

Lightning girl. Don't care. Don't like the actress, don't like the character.

I think we haven't seen the last of flying boy. I don't know how useful fly would be for a villain, but I still think he's going to go bad (if he isn't already).

What about Caitlin? Who cares?

I hope, if we get more Heroes, we learn more about the other items in the vault.
 

Darkwolf71 said:
I don't think so, he didn't have his power when he killed Alejandro or Candice. So, it's unlikely that he will show up with their powers.
I disagree. He seemed to have performed surgery on candace and he might have on the twin. Remember, he didn't have a power at first. He gave himself powers with that crude form of surgery. so I"m sure that he did it again, but the powers are still inactive.
 

Vocenoctum said:
Force themselves?

I watched season 1 and liked it a lot. The final 2-3 eps lagged, and the finale was bleh, but I figured they'd plot out season 2 better from the start so they didn't run into the snags of the first.

I'm not watching Heroes to complain about it, I gave it through the end of a plotline to turn around and improve to where I'd hoped for.

The simple fact is, a lot of folks DIDN'T, and Heroes ratings took a dive. I gave it the benefit of the doubt (or, more appropriately, hoped against all reason) and gave it time. I don't like it anymore and so I'm out.


Now, why do I discuss it? Because this is a discussion board and I'm disappointed, same as I've posted occasionally about gnomes being killed off. I've also posted about things I like, but no one says there "hey, why don't you keep your opinions to yourself". (Not that you are here of course.)

As for comic shows, I've watched and enjoyed many comic movies, and I don't think what makes a comic movie is bad plot, pacing, stupid characters, and many of the other hallmarks that folks complain about comics in general. If I've been to every XMen movie, seen many others, and still find Heroes "comic bookness" to be a flaw, then I think the intended audience is quite a bit different.
By your own admission you don't like comic books, so why is it a surprise to you that you don't like a tv show based on them. In one post you complain that the tv shows have elements of traditional superhero comic books. Well that's what its about. Watching special effects filled action movies and reading a comic book is usually two different things.
 

DonTadow said:
I disagree. He seemed to have performed surgery on candace and he might have on the twin. Remember, he didn't have a power at first. He gave himself powers with that crude form of surgery. so I"m sure that he did it again, but the powers are still inactive.

I'm not sure he would be able to use the Candice's power since he technically needs to use his power to obtain the power once he lobotomizes his victim. However, his power was not functioning at the time so he wouldn't know how the power works, or at least thats how I see it. Unfortunately, the writers can always decide to make the power work if they wanted to make Sylar even more deadly or unstoppable... but then at that point there would be no reason to actually continue the series since he would have a "I win" button since he could theoretically trap a person in an illusion and lobotomize them without being detected.

I personally don't think Alejandro have a power, or at least, it appeared as if they retconned his having a power after several episodes since he stopped absorbing Maya's "death oil" after Maya, Syler and reappeared after a two - three episode disappearance. After all, if Alejandro had a power when he died then why was it that they deliberately gave Maya the ability to control her ability without Alejandro's help? To me, that made it seem as if Alejandro was just a crutch... and furthered that incestuous subtext he had going on between him and maya
 
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DonTadow said:
I disagree. He seemed to have performed surgery on candace and he might have on the twin. Remember, he didn't have a power at first. He gave himself powers with that crude form of surgery. so I"m sure that he did it again, but the powers are still inactive.
Sylar did have a power, His power was to understand how other powers work, and then add the power to him mind.
 

Relique du Madde said:
I'm not sure he would be able to use the Candice's power since he technically needs to use his power to obtain the power once he lobotomizes his victim. However, his power was not functioning at the time so he wouldn't know how the power works, or at least thats how I see it.

We've been through this before.

While it is possible your interpretation is right, Sylar's reaction at the time suggests otherwise. Sylar poked around in her brains and believed he understood how her power worked. He then tried to use it and was SURPRISED it did not work.

Sylar's surprise is triggered not when he uses his native power to figure out how things work - but when he tries to use the flashy power of illusion.

That's a distinction with a difference.
 

DonTadow said:
By your own admission you don't like comic books, so why is it a surprise to you that you don't like a tv show based on them. In one post you complain that the tv shows have elements of traditional superhero comic books. Well that's what its about. Watching special effects filled action movies and reading a comic book is usually two different things.

By my own admission? I'm not sure how else to put it, so let me try once more.

Comics are fine. Crappy Comics are crappy.

Heroes is emulating Crappy Comics.

Heroes is Crappy.

There, simple enough?

I like movies based on comics, but I should expect less from TV shows based on comics? Because "using the worst tropes of comic books" is somehow the same as "based on comics"?

I read comics for years, before the mainstream stuff turned me off, now I don't read them anymore. I've looked into a few that would be worthwhile, but get turned off by the price compared to how long it takes to read them, and how infrequent they are published. A weekly TV show seems like a good outlet for that.
 

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