Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#34)---12/03/07-'POWERLESS' Mid-Season Finale (or the End)

[Glyfair]

If that's the lesson he learned, then he learned the wrong lesson.

Actually, there were a half dozens things he listed that he did wrong. If you search you can probably find it, as it was covered in a thread here.

...the problem was that there were way too many incidences of either characters behaving stupidly...

Some of it was silly. However, a lot of the complaints I see of this is what I call "gamer logic." The sort of logic that gamers use when they say in that a certain action is the only logical thing and not doing it is stupid. The biggest example of it is "X is a threat, they should have just killed him" even though people tend to resist killing someone and there are major repercussions for getting caught. Also, they forget that people do stupid and illogical things all the time.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Actually, I will "pray" that the lazy writers get off their sorry high horses and get back to work. They are not bosses, they work for someone else. When you work for someone else, they set the rules. If you don't like the rules, you are free to leave and find a different someone else to work for.
They have no right to demand anything.

I think we already have a thread discussing the writers strike, so I'd recommend just discuss Heroes here, and _anything_ that pertains the ethics and morals behind the writers strike to the other thread. No need to derail here.
Therefore:

Back to Heroes.....

 

[Hand of Evil]

Okay, some thoughts for you...

Nathan can come back...

a) Peter using Lenderman's (spelling) power
b) Peter using his own blood
c) Peter using Molly's power to find Claire, then fly out and use it
d) Nathan becomes Peter's Jessica talking to him from beyond the grave and being his advisor
e) HRG is the shooter and will bring Nathan back as a secret plan to take out the Company​

Odds are none of those will happen. Peter is not bright and the writers have not helped him. Nathan was one of the few complex characters on the show, when he had air time. His relationships, his views, even his thoughts.


Also, what about Peter and the funky powder of virus, was it just me of did it look like he absorbed it?

 

[Goobermunch]

I told my brother that just after it happened (I also predicted that Nathan would be shot as they headed for the press conference, pretty obvious). The guy walking away moved like HRG.

Of course, that doesn't mean they won't change it later if they choose, even if they shot it with him.

I have a more sinister theory. I suspect that the shooter was none other than a version of Peter from an alternate timeline! He was dressed like Peter and (at least to my eye) looked like him.

That would also explain Ma Petrelli's comment about opening Pandora's box.

--G

 

[GoodKingJayIII]

Actually, there were a half dozens things he listed that he did wrong. If you search you can probably find it, as it was covered in a thread here.

I actually posted the link in this thread. It's on page 1 or 2, but here it is again.

Heroes Creator to Fans: I'm Super Sorry!

 

[GlassJaw]

Got around to watching it last night. This episode was certainly better than the last couple. It's always a plus when we actually get to see some powers being used. The coolest scene was Peter and Adam walking down the hall towards the vault and taking on the guards. Too little, too late this season unfortunately but welcome nonetheless.

As others have said, the end definitely felt rushed and the wrap-up was over before you knew it. Kind of a wonky ending (hasty press conference). I saw the Nathan shooting a mile away. My guess is that Noah did it, now that's he been forced to work for the company again.

The way Nikki's died was kind of disappointing. Not saying they should have kept her character around (felt like they didn't know what to do with her all season) but the death scene was fairly lame. After a promising start to the season, the whole Micha/Nikki/Monica ended up being pretty much a throwaway this season.

I'm definitely glad Sylar is back in full form. He's the main reason to watch the show IMO. Overall, I was very disappointed with how he was used this season. At the end, I almost wanted him to inject himself and come back to the lab and wipe everyone out.

All in all, this season was a letdown for me. Some glimpses of brilliance but those were few and far between. Calling Volume 3 "Villains" is certainly promising.

 

[Felon]

Here's a half-baked prediction: we'll be misled into thinking Bennet performed the assassination, but in actuality he choked, failing to carry out the order at the appointed time, which necessitated the hasty press conference execution performed by someone else.

Maybe we even get a flashback where he tries to scare Nathan out of making the speech, warning him of the price, and Nathan decides to go ahead and let destiny take its course.

I'm not sure I would like any of that, but it would be in keeping with the sort of "surprises" Heroes has delivered in the past.

 

[fba827]

I have a more sinister theory. I suspect that the shooter was none other than a version of Peter from an alternate timeline! He was dressed like Peter and (at least to my eye) looked like him.

That would also explain Ma Petrelli's comment about opening Pandora's box.

--G

I'm of the mind that it is Noah B (aka HRG) - since to me he walked like him and it would offer more story ties later - but I like your idea that they will go somewhere even more creative with this (not saying I believe that to be the case, but I do like the creative idea ).

As for the Pandora's box... I wasn't entirely sure how to take it...
I saw it as one of two things
1) It was her way of saying " I'm talking to you calmly right now... but you've pissed me off and I'm gong to pen my can of whoop-ass on you" --- a very unlikley possibility given what we've seen of her character but I do see that as one possible interpretation
2) The more likely interpretation (to me anyway) is that 'you did this assassination in public, people will notice and question.'

I'd love to hear other interpretations (however reasonably far fetched) as to what Ma P might have meant by that ....

 

[Taelorn76]

Okay, some thoughts for you...

Nathan can come back...

a) Peter using Lenderman's (spelling) power
b) Peter using his own blood
c) Peter using Molly's power to find Claire, then fly out and use it
d) Nathan becomes Peter's Jessica talking to him from beyond the grave and being his advisor
e) HRG is the shooter and will bring Nathan back as a secret plan to take out the Company​

Odds are none of those will happen. Peter is not bright and the writers have not helped him. Nathan was one of the few complex characters on the show, when he had air time. His relationships, his views, even his thoughts.


Also, what about Peter and the funky powder of virus, was it just me of did it look like he absorbed it?

Just some notes

a) I don't believe Peter ever met Linderman
b) as discussed earlier Peter's blood may not work, since he is a copy
c) don't knwo how soon after death you need to inject the blod
d) Jessica's split personality was not a power, her mind could not deal with it so it split
e) how would he bring him back with out taking him to Claire

 

[Taelorn76]

I'm of the mind that it is Noah B (aka HRG) - since to me he walked like him and it would offer more story ties later - but I like your idea that they will go somewhere even more creative with this (not saying I believe that to be the case, but I do like the creative idea ).

As for the Pandora's box... I wasn't entirely sure how to take it...
I saw it as one of two things
1) It was her way of saying " I'm talking to you calmly right now... but you've pissed me off and I'm gong to pen my can of whoop-ass on you" --- a very unlikley possibility given what we've seen of her character but I do see that as one possible interpretation
2) The more likely interpretation (to me anyway) is that 'you did this assassination in public, people will notice and question.'

I'd love to hear other interpretations (however reasonably far fetched) as to what Ma P might have meant by that ....

How about Peter loved his brother and since he is so powerful he will destroy who did this