Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#30)---11/05/07-'Out of Time'

[Fast Learner]

I doubt Angela Petrelli used a power there at all. Peter doesn't have all his memories back - he doesn't know who Adam Monroe is yet. What (I suspect) happened is that he simply used his mind-reading to learn everything his Mom knows about him; he's got some memories back, but not everything. Remember, Mrs. Petrelli is quite adept at working with mind-readers (like she did with Parkman earlier in the season); she likely knew what sorts of things to think of to restore some of Peter's memories.

Exactly. It looked to me like Peter was reading her mind.

On Peter blowing up, what makes folks think his body was in any way harmed by the explosion? Remember when Ted was going nuclear in the Bennett family's house? As he was blowing out enough energy to burn Claire's skin away, nothing bad was happening to him. He wasn't burned or anything.

I don't see any reason to believe that "going nuclear" means the hero is actually damaged in the process.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I doubt Angela Petrelli used a power there at all. Peter doesn't have all his memories back - he doesn't know who Adam Monroe is yet. What (I suspect) happened is that he simply used his mind-reading to learn everything his Mom knows about him; he's got some memories back, but not everything. Remember, Mrs. Petrelli is quite adept at working with mind-readers (like she did with Parkman earlier in the season); she likely knew what sorts of things to think of to restore some of Peter's memories.

That's possible - or Adam had Peters memory erased to give the appearance that he was an "old" friend, and Peter getting his memory back wrecks these plans now.
(It's not an exclusive "or" - I think it is entirely possible that Peter never met Adam, at least not in a "friendly" manner)

 

[Hand of Evil]

I am going to go out on a limb and say I think Peters memory erase was just plain and simple mind control by the company, they may have been aided by some powers but that is about it. His mom, just used a trigger.

Now, it is possible this was because someone wanted him to go into the future, just to get information for their plans. Why do testing when you have someone that can see the results.

 

[Taelorn76]

Latest off-the-wall theory.

Elle gets Peter out of custody from the Company where he had been since the BOOM (he gets her electricity powers). She and he team up to break Adam out. The three vow to bring down the Company.

How Peter gets into the cargo container in Cork and why the Irishmen were looking to rob that container I don't yet know, but that's a start of a theory.

Elle is working for the company and, I think Bob is Elle's father. If she broke Peter out of jail why would she be trying to bring him back?

Also the Irishmen were trying to steal a container full of IPods.

 

[Taelorn76]

Hence the earlier reference to Wolverine. Wolverine was effectively vaporized once yet somehow regenerated from one single cell that somehow managed to survive.

Off topic

Would he not have regenerated without his claws and ademantium [SP] skeleton? Those were foreign objects in his body and not part of his DNA.

 

[Remus Lupin]

On Peter blowing up, what makes folks think his body was in any way harmed by the explosion? Remember when Ted was going nuclear in the Bennett family's house? As he was blowing out enough energy to burn Claire's skin away, nothing bad was happening to him. He wasn't burned or anything.

I don't see any reason to believe that "going nuclear" means the hero is actually damaged in the process.

Yes, that is certainly the answer, with regard to Peter, but his situation led me to question about the other two. His situation is unique because he's got the nuclear power AND regeneration. We saw that Claire can be burned almost to a crisp and almost immediately regenerate, but what if she did completely disintegrate? Similarly, why not stick Adam in an industrial furnace and turn the temperature up to "extra crispy." Then, scatter the ashes at sea.

Remember Planescape: Torment? Your character was effectively immortal and could come back from pretty much anything, EXCEPT that if you compeltely destroyed his body that was the end of the game.

 

[Hand of Evil]

Off topic

Would he not have regenerated without his claws and ademantium [SP] skeleton? Those were foreign objects in his body and not part of his DNA.

during the Weapon X testing the process altered his DNA, Magnetto at one time pulled the metal from him, at which point we found out the claws are natural to him, being more spurs.

 

[Hand of Evil]

Yes, that is certainly the answer, with regard to Peter, but his situation led me to question about the other two. His situation is unique because he's got the nuclear power AND regeneration. We saw that Claire can be burned almost to a crisp and almost immediately regenerate, but what if she did completely disintegrate? Similarly, why not stick Adam in an industrial furnace and turn the temperature up to "extra crispy." Then, scatter the ashes at sea.

Remember Planescape: Torment? Your character was effectively immortal and could come back from pretty much anything, EXCEPT that if you compeltely destroyed his body that was the end of the game.

Ever read the Lord of Light, the "soul" of a person was energy, it was transfer from one body to the next. It was discussed in that book that IF a new body lasted long enough it would change to look like the person's original body. Not saying it but WHAT IF...

 

[DonTadow]

I am going to go out on a limb and say I think Peters memory erase was just plain and simple mind control by the company, they may have been aided by some powers but that is about it. His mom, just used a trigger.

Now, it is possible this was because someone wanted him to go into the future, just to get information for their plans. Why do testing when you have someone that can see the results.

Watching the preview frame by frame, we see the hatian push peter into the container (peter is not wearing the necklace) and then another frame with him telling something to peter and then peter has the necklace on (and is chained up). Could the hatian have taken out peter that quickly on his own. I think the hatian stopped working for the company last year too and when we meet the hatian, he has the virus.

 

[Hand of Evil]

Watching the preview frame by frame, we see the hatian push peter into the container (peter is not wearing the necklace) and then another frame with him telling something to peter and then peter has the necklace on (and is chained up). Could the hatian have taken out peter that quickly on his own. I think the hatian stopped working for the company last year too and when we meet the hatian, he has the virus.

We also know that the hatian has a relationship with Angela (Peter/Natan's mom), which I he has said was a higher power than HRG.