Heroes Season [Volume] 2 (#33)---11/26/07-'Truth & Consequences'

[Grog]

Agreed wit heverything but this. He's an illegal alien who is also wanted for murder.

Alejandro not calling the cops is fine, but then he goes to confront a confessed murderer at night, in an isolated motel room, alone, and without a weapon or a plan of any kind? That's approaching a level of stupidity usually reserved for teenagers in horror movies.

Although, this is the same guy who decided to steal a car in broad daylight, in the middle of a town square, and with no real plan other than to break the window, so I guess Alejandro's always been an idiot.

 

[Hand of Evil]

Alejandro not calling the cops is fine, but then he goes to confront a confessed murderer at night, in an isolated motel room, alone, and without a weapon or a plan of any kind? That's approaching a level of stupidity usually reserved for teenagers in horror movies.

Although, this is the same guy who decided to steal a car in broad daylight, in the middle of a town square, and with no real plan other than to break the window, so I guess Alejandro's always been an idiot.

And, to top this off Sylar told him only a few shows ago that he, Sylar, was going to first kill him, Alejandro. Sure, people say they are going to kil someone all the time but then to find out the guy is a killer. Dumb move.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Agreed wit heverything but this. He's an illegal alien who is also wanted for murder.

And, as we all know, the police do not accept anonymous tips from payphones, you have to wait for them to arrive, identify yourself and your country of origin and wait...

 

[Vocenoctum]

And, to top this off Sylar told him only a few shows ago that he, Sylar, was going to first kill him, Alejandro. Sure, people say they are going to kil someone all the time but then to find out the guy is a killer. Dumb move.

Alejandro doesn't speak english well enough to understand "kill" and "eat your brains" I think.

 

[Ilium]

And, to top this off Sylar told him only a few shows ago that he, Sylar, was going to first kill him, Alejandro. Sure, people say they are going to kil someone all the time but then to find out the guy is a killer. Dumb move.

But he told him in English, which Alejandro doesn't (didn't) speak. That was purely for the audience's benefit (and Sylar's ego, I suppose).

I thought the episode was pretty good, actually. Yes, there were problems with it, but all in all I thought it was fine.

I don't think Claires' grief is "pointless" even if she does find Noah's still alive. It will help her appreciate him (and the rest of her family) more. I think the Bennets all on one team could be quite a force to reckon with.

I am unable to come up with a good reason for Peter not reading Adam's mind, though. Or at least saying "Let's talk this out" to Hiro when they have, literally, all the time they need. Dumb.

One thing I'm not clear on: everybody is assuming Matt was not "the sitter". Did we actually see him leave to find Pratt? Maybe he's the one Sylar "convinced" (like with a baseball bat or something).

 

[Vocenoctum]

Heroes just seems too disjointed and scatterbrain. The writers seem like they can't decide how characters should act in certain situations.

I felt this way with first season too, that the writing/directing lacks oversight and that the metaplot is only a basic idea rather than a solid outline & episode guide. THey might have memorable scene's intended for some eps, but then it's up to the writer to fill in between, which tends to give long nothing episodes where nothing memorable happens between resolving last eps cliffhanger and establishing the new eps cliffhanger.

Peter should be kicking major butt with all the abilities at his disposal - invisibility, mind-reading, flying for pete's sake (no pun intended).

Right, forget Peter trusting Adam for the moment.
He can fly to Odessa, read the guards mind to find the location of the secret part, enter invisibly, find the sample and destroy it. He doesn't need Adam or the mysteries around him.

But yeah, I know, he's just a normal person, so he wouldn't think of all that. Sure he uses those powers as a minimum plot advancement, but he'd never think to make actual active use of his abilities, that'd be silly. Sure, he feels like it's his task because he's a hero and he was given these powers and must use them for the greater good, but that doesn't mean he actually knows to USE them.


I also wonder if they'll ever explain how this virus occurred in Shanti, then Molly, then Haitian, then Sylar, when it's not contagious.

 

[Vocenoctum]

I don't think Claires' grief is "pointless" even if she does find Noah's still alive. It will help her appreciate him (and the rest of her family) more. I think the Bennets all on one team could be quite a force to reckon with.

See, I figured that last season.

Then, this season, they reversed all that and made Claire and Noah adversarial again.


So, why should we believe this time it matters?

 

[GlassJaw]

But yeah, I know, he's just a normal person, so he wouldn't think of all that.

Heck, I'm a normal person and I can think of a TON of things I'd do with even ONE of his abilities! Invisibility?! Are you kidding me?!

 

[F5]

Making Alejandro's idiocy even worse...doesn't he speak to Sylar IN ENGLISH just before Sylar knifes him? Which would imply that he knew what Sylar was saying all along? Seems like sloppy writing, to me...

Although, to be fair, I don't see that Monica was such an idiot, unless you want to complain that she went after Micah's backpack at all. Her power mimics what she sees exactly, she can't improvise. She watches a video of some dude going Parkour up a wall, and she can get up a similar wall...she never watched a video of the same dude coming back down! So, she hides on the cieling (typical move, you see it on TV all the time), but is found out by dumb luck when the comic falls...at which point the gang bangers pull their guns on her. Just because she's watched a Bruce Lee movie doesn't mean she can dodge bullets. I think the results there are perfectly justifiable. And, I think it sets up Nikki to go kick some ass next episode, and save Monica.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

What I think is interesting is the complaints about the episode...they're ALL valid and definitely true, hell I agree with pretty much all of them.

At the same time, though, almost all of them(inconsistent power use, characterization going from one thing to the next randomly, people acting stupid just because, etc) are basically staples of comics. For me, these kind of things don't actually detract from the show, as I'm used to seeing them in comics. Now, they CAN be done to an extreme that is just painful, but I haven't run into that with Heroes yet. Just feels like I'm watching a comic on TV.