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And the nature of our advanced classes isnt really like a Gifted/Talented program. Its more like advanced classes are regular classes that move twice as fast. We dont cover things more deeply, just faster.

That really does suck. As to your advanced classes, I think there is room for both styles of learning in a school. Especially in sciences or maths, where a gifted student does not need to know the small details to understand the material, and does not need the lessons to be reinforced.
 

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My advanced math courses were a hoot. One year the math department decided to do an experiment with us. The teacher wouldn't teach, she just posted assignemnts and would answer any questions we had the next day. Homework was never checked, we had a quiz every friday, and a test at the end of every month. We read books, played cards in class. Class average at the end of the year was 94%, and A- in the grading scale that was used. That was my Junior year in High School.

As a senior we studied calculus and other advanced maths. I went on to major in Math in College. I tested out of everthing possible and it still took 4 classes before I covered anything that was not covered my senior year in high school, that's how advanced and challenging that class was. My final for that class was 50 problems long and I only finished 36 of them in the time permited. And I finished more problems then any one else in the class though I only got a the second highest score.
 



That is an impressive curriculum. My school did not have a program quite that advanced, I must say.
 

Total agreement [Edit: With skade's earlier post about both styles]

Looking at my classes, i definitly think that my math, science, and computer science classes are pretty much fine as "fast and shallow".

But English, French, and AP US History would definitly better as "paced and deep". Well, US History is sort of a conundrum, because either way it is done it is a pretty hard subject.

And in english, all we ever do anymore is write analytical essays about random passages, usually from 1800s literature. Its not really deep, we just crank them out. I mean, i can understand that writing a lot makes your writing better, because you've had lots of practice, but since i'm basically churning out the same essay every time, it isnt that educating.

And French, well, no matter what you do to that class, i'll still get a solid C. There is no way to fix that class, or more specifically, my lack of language skillz.
 
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Skade said:
That is an impressive curriculum. My school did not have a program quite that advanced, I must say.

Either did we. At least we weren't supposed to. My teacher for my senior year was a retired college math proffesor and he basically taught us what fe felt we needed to know going into college. I never worked harder for a class in my life and I pulled a B+ average for the year. No one pulled in anything higher then an A- and that was upset many people who had straight A's in everything else.

My freshmen year at college, my claculus was all stuff I had just done so I was bored out of my mind. I skipped class for a month, went to the test and scored a 98%. I totally blew the curve. Mt proffesor accused me of cheated (can you blame him?) so I went to his office and verbally worked out all the theroms, diravitives, and postulates from memory for him to show him I more then understood what was going on.
 



One of the highlights from our G/T program was our version of AP World History. Each student was assigned a time period, and was expected to teach the class for the section of the year. It was a very competitive class, so we had to really be on our toes as we would all try to stump the others. The end result was we all gained quite a bit from the class.
 

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