Hockey Question

[paulsometimes]

When a player scores a goal in a shootout, does that count as a goal for his stats? Or does he just get a pat on the back and a note saying he should've done that during regulation if he wanted it to be on record? Thanks.

 

[greymist]

The latter.
And for the record, shootouts suck.

 

[paulsometimes]

Yeah, but I prefer shootouts to ties.

 

[IamTheTest]

Ties are for sissies...I dont mind the shootout.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

While I'd rather they settle things on the ice in regular play, the reality is that too many injuries- mostly fatigue related- would occur if regular season tie games got settled like playoff ones.

So, shootouts it is, until they come up with something better.

 

[Olaf the Stout]

I think one of the biggest let-downs is seeing the soccer World Cup decided by penalties. They only hold it once every 4 years yet the final result can come down to almost total luck. Surely there's a better way for the final to be determined.

Olaf the Stout

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Something I've suggested for American Football would work: base the amount of points awarded for success upon the distance the ball traveled for the score...

In Soccer, that would mean a goal from within the box during flow of play would be 1 point...one tipped home from a set play started outside the box would count for 2.

Any untipped shot from outside the box that simply gets past the goalie...3 points.

It would reward those who are skilled enough to strike from 40+ out, while punishing goalies who play sloppily and probably eliminating 70+% of ties.

Win-Win-Win!

Yes, this is similar to the scoring in NBA Basketball...but in basketball, the individual goal is a common thing, whereas a score in Soccer is hard-earned. A single goal from long-distance could win the game...

 

[glass]

Something I've suggested for American Football would work: base the amount of points awarded for success upon the distance the ball traveled for the score...

Ugh, please, no! The significance of every goal (or prevented goal) is part of what makes association football unique.

Reputedly the american FA tried to introduce something like that for USA 94, but thankfully FIFA told them 'no chance'.


glass.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I didn't say it was ideal- I just said it would solve the problem of ties & shootouts to a great extent. So would widening the goal to 50'...or making it 20' tall...or both.

Then you'd have scores that look like college football, and most of the defensive positions would dissapear.

Every possible solution is going to have its downside...the question is which solution is the most palatable to the greatest number of coaches, players, and fans.

 

[Jdvn1]

base the amount of points awarded for success upon the distance the ball traveled for the score...

Re: Soccer
Ugh. And take away from the skill a player might have to dribble past a defense and sneak a ball by the goalie? No thanks.

It makes more sense in basketball, where the goal is harder to get the ball into, and where goaltending isn't allowed.

I don't think there's a better option than the shootout. I don't like excessive overtimes, where the game is decided by which team is less exhausted from playing for two hours straight.

Though allowing more substitutions would also probably make for fewer overtimes, it still doesn't answer the question, "What should we do when the game is tied by the end of regulation time?"

I'd try to redesign the shootout such that the goalie has a better chance of stopping the ball. Maybe spot the ball a bit farther.