holy water + antimagic field =?

[Scion]

Title says it all I believe. Is holy water 'magical' in effect or as a substance? It seems very odd, plus it takes a spell to create (last I checked, 3.5 might be different I suppose). It deals damage like acid to creatures of a specific alignment.. that seems a bit odd for a mundane item to do as well. But I do not know, what say the rules experts?

 

[CRGreathouse]

I'd say it's (Ex)trodinary in nature and would work in an antimagic field.

 

[James McMurray]

I would make it a (Su) effect. It requires a spell to create, and so strikes me as being magical in nature.

 

[Scion]

I can see both sides, this is the problem I was hopeing there was something, somewhere, that said it for sure.

 

[James McMurray]

Well, it can damage incorporeal undead, which are "immune to all non-magical attack forms". Looks to me like it has to be magical.

 

[Scion]

yep, although the counter arguement i have heard to that is the sun isnt magical yet sunlight can kill certain undead or make others powerless.

I dont know which I prefer, at the time I ruled that it was supernatural, but it is still a hard call for me.

 

[James McMurray]

The sun can only affect incorporeal undead with a specific weakness to it. Thus their specific rule overrides the general rule that only magic harms incorporeal creatures. All incorporeal undead are vulneable to holy water, without any special weakness in their description.

 

[Scion]

Which could merely be a special property of a material Sortof like a natural ghost touch or something similar.

Like I said, I did rule it to be supernatural in the game because of things like you are argueing. I take it though that the books dont say definitively very unfortunate.

 

[the Jester]

Damn, that's a stumper.

 

[Stalker0]

bless water is an instantaneous spell. Just as a wall of iron spell creates an instantaneous wall that is nonmagical.. bless water creates a substance that is nonmagical.