D&D 5E Homebrew Marshal Class (+Thread)

[doctorbadwolf]

But the marshal's gambit cant grant a cantrip, right? Only weapon attacks?

I mean, I guess.

What's wrong with granted attack equals cast cantrip? If you specify ranged spell attack it should be fine.

Yeah I think I’d rather just allow it in the first draft and change it later if needed.

 

[Garthanos]

While on the subject of the limitation of Reactions, I think that the capstone of tactical/lazy marshal could that allies within presence gain a number of bonus reaction per round.

I am inclined to up the entire reactions available for any class getting extra attacks regardless.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

I dont know, with the cantrips auto-scaling damage, at mid-high level the warlord would be better granting an attack to spellcaster instead of other martials who only receive a single attack. Feels a little off to me, but that's just my preference.

 

[Fenris-77]

So call it a single cantrip cast at less than level five. Keep in mind the single attack is subject to GWM, PAM, XBM, SS and whatever other stacked feat tree nonsense might be going on, so it's maybe not as far off as you might think. A longsword at +8 dmg does an average of 12.5 per hit, and a 2d10 firebolt does an average of 9. Even a 3d10 firebolt only does 13.5 on average. Once you toss in GWM or SS it's not even really that close.

 

[Tony Vargas]

I dont know, with the cantrips auto-scaling damage, at mid-high level the warlord would be better granting an attack to spellcaster instead of other martials who only receive a single attack. Feels a little off to me, but that's just my preference.

The equivalent of granting a single attack when granting a cantrip would be to grant a cantrip at 1st-level scaling - that is, a single die.

So, if you wanted the warlord granting the equivalent of a single attack - so effectively, a non-scaling attack - he could grant:

A single weapon attack.
No more than 1d of sneak attack can be applied to that attack.
A single attack out of an Eldritch Blast.
A cantrip doing only it's base 1d of damage.

If you want him to grant a scaled attack, so that the ability remains roughly comparable at all levels, like Action Surge, instead of rapidly dropping off in usefulness like Second Wind, it'd be simpler for him to grant an action, that must be used only for an Attack Action or Cast a Spell (cantrip only) action.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Also, if it specifies cantrip that requires a spell attack, it should be fine. Nothing wrong with shocking grasp.

 

[Fenris-77]

Or even just a damage dealing cantrip. If someone wants to use poison spray I dont think I mind.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Or even just a damage dealing cantrip. If someone wants to use poison spray I dont think I mind.

True, it just broadens the tactical possibilities in an intuitive way.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Man I hate that I’m working so much while all these great ideas are being thrown around.

So, base class is going to grant attacks as an attack, 1 ki cost, including cantrips.

Did anyone have thoughts on whether it should be a thing where the Marshal makes an attack that deals Gambit Die damage, and then spends 1 ki to grant an attack?

feels more active, and more like the Marshal is creating an opening. Combined with +GD damage as a bonus action, is it pretty balanced as what you do with your whole turn?

 

[Fenris-77]

I like that better - the activity is important, although it might also be flavorful for a lazylord to have a, well, lazier option.