Hordes of the Underdark

[LightPhoenix]

It's not really a real time game IMO if you can pause it and make it more turn based, which I frequently do, as poking through radial menus with lots of options is not conducive to real time fighting unless you don't cast spells.

Well, just because the game can be paused doesn't make it turn-based, though I see your point.

I did like NWN, up to a point, though I disliked it not being a proper interpretation of the core rules and disliked the character development of Aribeth, which contributed heavily to a rather lame ending (like those uber-lizard men coming out of left field as the main villains).

Yeah, the original campaign really did stink, I'll be the first to admit.

I'd forgotten just how different NWN was from the PnP rules over the past year and especially after playing through ToEE with its much more exacting PnP rules (not that that game isn't without its faults).

To be fair, there are definitely parts of the game I would like a better adherence to PnP rules too.

Anybody have the solution to the Undermountain triple gargoyle statue/skeleton bomb room? Every time I try moving the statues, they move back and drop a skeleton bomb on me. Pushing levers puts force fields around the statues. I have no idea what to do. Also, I can't find all the colored chains to open the magically sealed door on the 2nd level.

If it's the puzzle I'm thinking of, you're trying to open a door, right? I never encountered any skeleton bombs though. I know there was a faerie in a room making them, you could try taking her out before attempting the puzzle, I don't know if that would help. Turn the statues so that they're facing the door and the beam comes out, then push the lever - this prevents them from being reset. Once all three are facing the door (the middle one forward, the two side ones diagonally towards it) and locked the door should open.

The chains are scattered around, and my memory is kind of shady on this. I know one is on the goblin right when you enter the level. One is with the traders (where Linu is). One is in the northern area, though I forget what's there. And I'm totally blanking on the fourth, I think it's with some drow in their encampment.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Okay, Santa has come and gone and I now have Hordes if the Underdark. After some protests from the my computer I have it up and running... I went to my old save games only to see that my last save was 10/10/02.

So what's wrong with me? I've never done the party thing, I only have dial-up, I haven't even finished the original campaign so I figure I would run through that a little bit and I realize I love this game. I wish I could answer the question as why has it been a year since I've played but I can't.

Anyhow I have some questions:
1) Where is the "jump" on point for "Hordes of the Underdark"? I'm only in chapter 3 of the original game, but I'm already a 13th level character.

2) Did everyone start Shadows of Undertide" as a 1st level character?

3) If anyone wants to play a multiplayer game let me know.

 

[LightPhoenix]

Anyhow I have some questions:
1) Where is the "jump" on point for "Hordes of the Underdark"? I'm only in chapter 3 of the original game, but I'm already a 13th level character.

12th level is the minimum if you use a pre-existing character, 15th if you start one from scratch, or under 12th level (you'll be levelled up automatically).

2) Did everyone start Shadows of Undertide" as a 1st level character?

SoU was designed for you to start at 1st level. You could start at a higher level, but you'll be impacting the difficulty of the game if you do.

As an aside, HotU is designed as a semi-sequel to SoU, not to the original game - though there is one thing late in HotU which wraps up something from the original game. It's a very minor thing though, IMO.

3) If anyone wants to play a multiplayer game let me know.

I would, but my connection has been rediculously flaky lately. I'm actually going to have to call my provider (Road Runner) and have words with them.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

12th level is the minimum if you use a pre-existing character, 15th if you start one from scratch, or under 12th level (you'll be levelled up automatically).

Cool, I will be playing SoU first then. Well after I finish the original... Though when I started the game I didn't know much about 3.0 edition and I don't really like my character now... Nice thing to find out 28 hours into the game huh?

I would, but my connection has been rediculously flaky lately. I'm actually going to have to call my provider (Road Runner) and have words with them.

Well I'm only on 56K anyways so I doubt anyone would have much fun dealling with it.

Actually I have a few more questions.

4) How does the multiplayer play over 56K connection?

5) Does anyone really know how to do the custom races? I've read a few things about it but I'm worried about breaking my install.

6) Does anyone know of any good to great modules that they dearly love?

7) ENworld Guild, do we have one?

 

[Liolel]

I went to my old save games only to see that my last save was 10/10/02.

Try running nwn updater. When I installed I went from version 1.61 (sou) to 1.59 (hotu) and an older version can't play newer saved games.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Try running nwn updater. When I installed I went from version 1.61 (sou) to 1.59 (hotu) and an older version can't play newer saved games.

Oh my saves worked just fine! I have since updated to 1.61.

 

[LightPhoenix]

4) How does the multiplayer play over 56K connection?

5) Does anyone really know how to do the custom races? I've read a few things about it but I'm worried about breaking my install.

6) Does anyone know of any good to great modules that they dearly love?

7) ENworld Guild, do we have one?

Number four I can't answer, since I've had a cable modem or university connection since I've had the game.

Custom races are, to my knowledge, still a kludge. There's a program that can be found at nwvault.ign.com which was put out that allows you to create them as characters before you start the game, but an actual integrated thing with the 2da files doesn't work because they hardcoded the race selection part (because of the GUI).

Similarly, at the site above you can find a lot of modules. I'd recommend the Dreamcatcher series. A lot of people recommend the Penultima series as well, but I wasn't too fond of it myself.

I do not know if there's an ENWorld guild, but if there isn't, there should be!

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Number four I can't answer, since I've had a cable modem or university connection since I've had the game.

I wish I didn't need the answer...

Custom races are, to my knowledge, still a kludge. There's a program that can be found at nwvault.ign.com which was put out that allows you to create them as characters before you start the game, but an actual integrated thing with the 2da files doesn't work because they hardcoded the race selection part (because of the GUI).

My desire to play unique characters will always be the death of me... Is this it?

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If so have you tried it? As in have you made your own race? I figured I would start simple and just use the human model and basically template a human with the "Half-Nymph" template seen in dragon 314. (Yes I'm crazy, but in case your going to ask anyways, cause Half Nymph paladins rock!)

Do you know if "character creator" characters/races work in the official models?

Similarly, at the site above you can find a lot of modules. I'd recommend the Dreamcatcher series. A lot of people recommend the Penultima series as well, but I wasn't too fond of it myself.

Yeah I've been their most of the day and I'm downloading the shadowlord series, and movies as we speak though I imagine it will be awhile before their done downloading and I get a chance to really play one.

I do not know if there's an ENWorld guild, but if there isn't, there should be!

I'm full of good ideas today I guess.

 

[LightPhoenix]

My desire to play unique characters will always be the death of me... Is this it?

If so have you tried it? As in have you made your own race? I figured I would start simple and just use the human model and basically template a human with the "Half-Nymph" template seen in dragon 314. (Yes I'm crazy, but in case your going to ask anyways, cause Half Nymph paladins rock!)

Do you know if "character creator" characters/races work in the official models?

That's the one, though I haven't tried it myself, I may in the future depending on how motivated I get. I would try the CODI boards, there's probably a lot of help to be had there.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

That's the one, though I haven't tried it myself, I may in the future depending on how motivated I get.

I have it but I haven't done much with it other than play around with it some. Though I haven't finished anything and try to incorporate it in yet.

I would try the CODI boards, there's probably a lot of help to be had there.

You know? That's a darn good idea! I knew I was keeping you around for something! (In all seriousness I'm shocked I hadn't thought of it yet... I wonder if I would ever have thought of it. )