Horrid Wilting

[Oryan77]

The way I read it, you were simply saying fire needs air. Whatever. I was just poking holes in your theory in good humor.

Well, like you pointed out from the SRD...apparently D&D fire doesn't require air..so I guess my theory is bull

Scion did NOT say moisture equals water. He said moisture does NOT equal water. In the C programming language a "!=" operator is used to mean "not equal".

Ya know, it's already embarassing enough that we play D&D. It doesn't help our geeky image any when people communicate in C programming language also. But now I'm even more confused about where my argument went because if moisture doesn't equal water, then what's he think moisture is made up of?

Nitpick. It's not magical fire, but simply fire. It's just that it doesn't happen to require air on the Plane of Fire because of the plane's very nature.

Any fire that doesn't need air is pretty magical to me

 

[RandomPrecision]

Well, like you pointed out from the SRD...apparently D&D fire doesn't require air..so I guess my theory is bull

Scientifically, magic doesn't exist...but it does in D&D.

Ya know, it's already embarassing enough that we play D&D. It doesn't help our geeky image any when people communicate in C programming language also.

Not to scare visitors away, and not to be rude, but if you're embarrassed about playing D&D, maybe this isn't the place for you.

Put yourself in a freezer and chill.

 

[Elephant]

Just rule that Horrid Wilting removes some of the volume of flame from the Fire ele and run with it.

 

[apesamongus]

Not to scare visitors away, and not to be rude, but if you're embarrassed about playing D&D, maybe this isn't the place for you.

I'd have to say that if you're not at least a little embarrassed about playing D&D, then maybe Earth isn't the place for you.

 

[Scion]

Huh? Yeah, that's what I'm saying, moisture = water, therefore, you can't have a 2nd element in a "FIRE" elemental. Where exactly did that arguement go?

It was already explained, but '!=' is 'not equal'. Also, this is used quite a bit in online forums, so I am glad that I have helped you understand a bit more of the internet culture. Sure, not everyone uses it, but it is used often enough that knowing what it means is fairly important.

Also, as to why your arguement goes away, is because not all moisture is water. Moisture can be any fluid that can condensate somewhere, somehow. So, as I said in my very first post,

So elementals are living creatures, and might have some fluid like substance keeping them together on some level.

The original poster asked for advice. I'm just pointing out what a Fire Elemental is. If you want to make a Fire Elemental be a half-breed in your game and allow Horrid Wilting to suck water from a Fire Elemental, then whatever. I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense...especially when fire doesn't even store water; fire feeds from air (and which has been pointed out in the SRD, the fire element doesn't even need air to fuel it). So again, fire evaporates water, so why would there be water in a Fire Elemental for Horrid Wilting to affect?

It doesnt make sense to you when you bring in a bunch of nonsense that has nothing to do with the game.

Thats fine though, to you it doesnt make sense so you would go with it not working.

But, it can easily be said to make sense while still being within the raw (in fact, it is very within the raw and well outside of your 'half-breed' statement which you are making up wholecloth.

Once again though, Moisture is not the same as Water. If water is somewhere you can say that it is moisture, but if someone tells you that there is moisture over somewhere that does not mean that it is water. It 'might' be, but it is not a definate.

 

[Scion]

I'd have to say that if you're not at least a little embarrassed about playing D&D, then maybe Earth isn't the place for you.

I suppose anyone can feel embarassed about doing anything, but that does not make it healthy.

 

[Nail]

.....dropping it on people in the middle of combat seems like a poor move ......

Exactly.

House rules are fine....as long as they don't happen in the middle of a crucial scene in-game.

The Horrid Wilting works on fire elementals.

 

[Infiniti2000]

No one said that this scene was crucial, though.

 

[Scion]

No one said that this scene was crucial, though.

Wasting a round at high levels can make or break an entire combat, not to mention the high level spell gone

 

[Nail]

Oooooo....good point. Perhaps I should have said "in the middle of combat, or during a crucial scence outside of combat".

Depending on circumstances and PCs, evn allowing the Wizard to cast a different spell might not be fair. Suppose he memorized this spell for this particular circumstance?