D&D (2024) How D&D Beyond Will Handle Access To 2014 Rules

D&D Beyond has announced how the transition to the new 2024 edition will work on the platform, and how legacy access to the 2014 version of D&D will be implemented.

• You will still be able to access the 2014 Basic Rules and core rulebooks.
• You will still be able to make characters using the 2014 Player's Handbook.
• Existing home-brew content will not be impacted.
• These 2014 rules will be accessible and will be marked with a 'legacy' badge: classes, subclasses, species, backgrounds, feats, monsters.
• Tooltips will reflect the 2024 rules.
• Monster stat blocks will be updated to 2024.
• There will be terminology changes (Heroic Inspiration, Species, etc.)

D&D (2024) - Wizards of the Coast Backtracks on D&D Beyond and 2014 Content

Wizards of the Coast posted an overnight update stating that they are not going forward with previously released plans to require those wishing to use some 2014 content on D&D Beyond to use the Homebrew function to manually enter it. Instead, all the content including spells and magic items will...

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[Chaosmancer]

I don't think that's true. Like I said, I like many games, and I'm confident I could find a group if I spent sometime on line looking for one. My wife went to a boardgames night she found online and in one night found three new players for my Level Up game. I'm on Discord for several games and all of them have looking for group forums that find groups.

So, that is one person confident they could find games if they looked.... compared to a dozen or so who have stated that they have looked for months or up to a year and not found any.

 

[Chaosmancer]

It became available to all. That's a big difference. All the difference really.

Becoming available to everyone doesn't change the properties of a thing. It changes access to the thing.

 

[Chaosmancer]

the standard is what is in the SRD, which is a subset of D&D 5e. I did not say anything about them borrowing from the standard, I said they are one implementation of it. If it matters to you I can also say they are the original implementation of it, but whether they are or not is not really all that relevant to there being one

But you keep trying to act, alongside Micah that "5e" is somehow not Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition, like the two are somehow entirely seperate entities. They are not. The SRD did not change that. Just like the mod community for Skyrim didn't change that Skyrim is an Elder Scrolls game made by Bethesda.

 

[Chaosmancer]

that is not what happened with 3e to 4e, so I would not be so sure about that.

How long before 4e was announced and published did Pathfinder exist? Did Pathfinder bill itself as completely unlike 3.5, or was it billed as a bunch of houserules and the "real" DnD 3.5? How many people went to Pathfinder when 4e gave way to 5e?

You are comparing apples to oranges here.

People like not sitting on a dead end that is not supported any more, so if ToV still gets support but 5e no longer does, some people will switch, maybe even most of those not moving to 6e

But if they are still sitting on 5e then... maybe they will switch to 6e, or to the new thing that came out in 2030 instead of an old system that came out nearly a decade ago. We don't see a lot of people leaving 5e now to go and play Dungeon World after all.

 

[Chaosmancer]

no it does not, but it changes who can use it, and that ultimately is what matters

If I own a car and tell you that you can use it whenever you want, I will never be using it, it makes very little practical difference that you do not legally own it

But you are thinking in the wrong terms. DnD isn't like a single physical object that only one person can use at a time. It is like software. And telling Adobe they can make products for Window's systems hasn't meant that Microsoft no longer owns Windows.

 

[mamba]

Any idea if you will still be able to buy XGE and TCE on DNDB once 2024 PHB comes out?

given that you can also still buy the 2014 PHB then, I'd say yes

 

[DinoInDisguise]

But you keep trying to act, alongside Micah that "5e" is somehow not Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition, like the two are somehow entirely seperate entities. They are not. The SRD did not change that. Just like the mod community for Skyrim didn't change that Skyrim is an Elder Scrolls game made by Bethesda.

The argument is more that 5e is a framework. And any system that uses that framework is 5e. It's similar to games using unity engine, you could call them all unity games.

Why do you think Level Up is more successful than WOIN? Coincidence?

Without specifics, how big is the difference, in your estimation, in WotC coat tails vs no coat tails? Is it just a higher floor? I ask because size of the player base leads one to believe the difference is very significant.

 

[mamba]

But you keep trying to act, alongside Micah that "5e" is somehow not Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition,

yes, 5e is a ruleset plus some examples, as specified in the SRD, D&D is... not that

It's similar to games using unity engine, you could call them all unity games.

no, not at all, Unity is far less specific. This is more akin to saying any game using a d20 is a d20 game

 

[DinoInDisguise]

no, not at all, Unity is far less specific. This is more akin to saying any game using a d20 is a d20 game

I am allowed to make bad analogies. Don't pick on me xD

 

[Micah Sweet]

The OGL still exists, and many of us fully belief that WotC can't destroy it.

They've made it irrelevant now, of course. Which has the exact same effect.

Yeah, that's basically what I meant.