D&D (2024) How D&D Beyond Will Handle Access To 2014 Rules

D&D Beyond has announced how the transition to the new 2024 edition will work on the platform, and how legacy access to the 2014 version of D&D will be implemented.

• You will still be able to access the 2014 Basic Rules and core rulebooks.
• You will still be able to make characters using the 2014 Player's Handbook.
• Existing home-brew content will not be impacted.
• These 2014 rules will be accessible and will be marked with a 'legacy' badge: classes, subclasses, species, backgrounds, feats, monsters.
• Tooltips will reflect the 2024 rules.
• Monster stat blocks will be updated to 2024.
• There will be terminology changes (Heroic Inspiration, Species, etc.)

D&D (2024) - Wizards of the Coast Backtracks on D&D Beyond and 2014 Content

Wizards of the Coast posted an overnight update stating that they are not going forward with previously released plans to require those wishing to use some 2014 content on D&D Beyond to use the Homebrew function to manually enter it. Instead, all the content including spells and magic items will...

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[mamba]

The designers has its compatible therefore their classes and monsters met the 5e benchmarks and thresholds.

But it goes in Very non5e ways to get those numbers.

not sure what that means, what benchmarks and thresholds

 

[mamba]

I'm running a TotV, Level up, Nimble 5e or Ruins of Symbaroum game tells me alot more in its specificity than your... I'm running 5e which tells me little to nothing about what rules are the baseline, what supplements, etc.

only if you know what the differences / these systems are. That was my point, it tells you nothing about that part.

When I call ToV and LU 5e compatible but Nimble not, then it tells me something about their level of compatibility at least. When you call one ToV and one Nimble, it is entirely unclear which is closer to D&D or how far away from it they are

I am still calling the ruleset ToV or whatever, but it is 5e compatible, and that tells me more than just calling it ToV

 

[Minigiant]

not sure what that means, what benchmarks and thresholds

NPC and PC DPR by CR or Level.

 

[Imaro]

only if you know what the differences / these systems are. That was my point, it tells you nothing about that part.

I can easily find information about them with a quick google search. As opposed to searching 5e which tells me nothing useful about any of these variants.

When I call ToV and LU 5e but Nimble not, then it tells me something about their level of compatibility at least. When you call one ToV and one Nimble, it is entirely unclear which is closer to D&D or how far away from it they are

No it doesn't it's binary. And there are some who consider Nimble 5e... 5e. All saying it's 5e does is tell me that you personally consider X 5e and that's next to useless since everyone has their own personal dividing line.

 

[mamba]

I can easily find information about them with a quick google search. As opposed to searching 5e which tells me nothing useful about any of these variants.

then don’t search for 5e… all I am saying that in addition to being ToV it is also 5e compatible, that does in no way mean you have to search for 5e…

No it doesn't it's binary. And there are some who consider Nimble 5e... 5e. All saying it's 5e does is tell me that you personally consider X 5e and that's next to useless since everyone has their own personal dividing line.

And yet again you have the exact same problem when you treat 5e compatible as D&D compatible rather than SRD compatible, because they all will still claim that

 

[FrogReaver]

everyone knows what 5e refers to, that was never in doubt. 5e is still a wider set of products than D&D 5e

If 5e refers to d&d 5e (something you just agreed we all know) then 5e cannot be a wider set of products than d&d 5e.

 

[Imaro]

then don’t search for 5e… all I am saying that in addition to being ToV it is also 5e compatible, that does in no way mean you have to search for 5e…

Then say that... 5e compatible as opposed to it's 5e. They have 2 different meanings and, at least in my mind set up different expectations.

And yet again you have the exact same problem when you treat 5e compatible as D&D compatible rather than SRD compatible, because they all will still claim that

I'm advocating for using the brand name when talking about a specific 5e variant and 5e compatible when speaking to them as a whole. Saying it's all 5e does nothing but confuse the issue.

 

[FrogReaver]

Then say that... 5e compatible as opposed to it's 5e. They have 2 different meanings and, at least in my mind set up different expectations.


I'm advocating for using the brand name when talking about a specific 5e variant and 5e compatible when speaking to them as a whole. Saying it's all 5e does nothing but confuse the issue.

Right. And has been mentioned, even 5e compatible is a bit vague, because there are different compatibilities.

 

[Imaro]

Right. And has been mentioned, even 5e compatible is a bit vague, because there are different compatibilities.

The cynic in me feels like... It's all 5e... is designed to get an unaware consumer to buy more 3pp stuff... regardless of just how compatible or incompatible it is with 5e or the variant that they are choosing to use.

 

[mamba]

If 5e refers to d&d 5e (something you just agreed we all know) then 5e cannot be a wider set of products than d&d 5e.

I am not sure how that follows. Just because 5e refers to D&D 5e does not at all mean that 5e compatible is not a wider set of products than D&D 5e compatible.

Just because Daimler came up with the first 4-cycle combustion engine does not mean every car is a Mercedes

A5e is 5e compatible and is its own game with its own core rules, so is ToV, so are 2014 and 2024 D&D. These are not all D&D, but they are all 5e