D&D (2024) How D&D Beyond Will Handle Access To 2014 Rules

D&D Beyond has announced how the transition to the new 2024 edition will work on the platform, and how legacy access to the 2014 version of D&D will be implemented.

• You will still be able to access the 2014 Basic Rules and core rulebooks.
• You will still be able to make characters using the 2014 Player's Handbook.
• Existing home-brew content will not be impacted.
• These 2014 rules will be accessible and will be marked with a 'legacy' badge: classes, subclasses, species, backgrounds, feats, monsters.
• Tooltips will reflect the 2024 rules.
• Monster stat blocks will be updated to 2024.
• There will be terminology changes (Heroic Inspiration, Species, etc.)

D&D (2024) - Wizards of the Coast Backtracks on D&D Beyond and 2014 Content

Wizards of the Coast posted an overnight update stating that they are not going forward with previously released plans to require those wishing to use some 2014 content on D&D Beyond to use the Homebrew function to manually enter it. Instead, all the content including spells and magic items will...

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[mamba]

I'm advocating for using the brand name when talking about a specific 5e variant and 5e compatible when speaking to them as a whole. Saying it's all 5e does nothing but confuse the issue.

5e is just shorthand for 5e compatible

The cynic in me feels like... It's all 5e... is designed to get an unaware consumer to buy more 3pp stuff...

and the cynic in me feels like insisting on emphasizing D&D over 5e is designed to deny the existence of non-WotC 5e games and raise the importance of WotC

 

[Imaro]

5e is just shorthand for 5e compatible

So the shorthand used for D&D 5e first was co-opted and changed in meaning. Yep seems like a recipe for confusion.

and the cynic in me feels like insisting on emphasizing D&D over 5e is designed to deny the existence of non-WotC 5e material and raise the importance of WotC

Well let me assure your cynic... the company producing the 800lb gorilla of ttrpg's (not to mention MtG) doesn't rely on anyone to raise its importance.

 

[mamba]

So the shorthand used for D&D 5e first was co-opted and changed in meaning. Yep seems like a recipe for confusion.

terms evolve over time

Well let me assure your cynic... the company producing the 800lb gorilla of ttrpg's (not to mention MtG) doesn't rely on anyone to raise its importance.

and yet you try to

 

[FrogReaver]

I am not sure how that follows. Just because 5e refers to D&D 5e

You can’t have your cake and eat it to.
Note here how you agree 5e refers to d&d 5e.

does not at all mean that 5e compatible is not a wider set of products than D&D 5e compatible.

Note here your use of ‘5e compatible’. I agree 5e compatible is a wider set of products than d&d 5e.

The question is whether 5e refers to d&d 5e or to 5e compatible. But since you already agreed 5e referred to d&d 5e, then we are at the point where you are just being inconsistent.

 

[mamba]

The question is whether 5e refers to d&d 5e or to 5e compatible. But since you already agreed 5e referred to d&d 5e, then we are at the point where you are just being inconsistent.

5e referred to D&D 5e when there was only D&D, now we have A5e, ToV, possibly others. As things change, the term evolves with them.

All of these are 5e, not all of them are D&D.

 

[FrogReaver]

Ot referred to D&D 5e when there was only D&D, now we have A5e, ToV, possibly others. As things change, the term evolves with them.

All of these are 5e, not all of them are D&D.

As you already agreed. 5e refers to d&d 5e.

Here’s the post in context where you agreed.

But 5e is d&d. 5e literally means 5th edition. Which begs the question - 5th edition of what? And the answer to that is d&d.

The reason a designer would say there game is 5e, compatible with 5e or derived from 5e is because they cannot legally say my game is compatible with 5e d&d. We all know that’s what they mean, but they just can’t say it that way.

everyone knows what 5e refers to, that was never in doubt. 5e is still a wider set of products than D&D 5e

 

[FrogReaver]

The cynic in me feels like... It's all 5e... is designed to get an unaware consumer to buy more 3pp stuff... regardless of just how compatible or incompatible it is with 5e or the variant that they are choosing to use.

Cynicism or not, I’m not a fan of a tiny part of the community trying to co-opt terms the broader community uses - regardless of the rationale.

 

[mamba]

As you already agreed. 5e refers to d&d 5e

sure, when I say 5e you know I mean D&D 5e, not the fifth edition of CoC or whatever. In that sense it refers to it, that does not mean I consider them interchangeable.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Sooo... Nimble 5e is 5e (even though at least 3 maybe 4 posters don't consider it as such)? Because it meets this very broad criteria... In fact there are non-5e games that meet this criteria.

I did say in most cases. Maybe try reading my entire post?

 

[FrogReaver]

sure, when I say 5e you know I mean D&D 5e, not the fifth edition of CoC or whatever. In that sense it refers to it, that does not mean I consider them interchangeable.

Giving you the benefit of a doubt, you obviously are confused about what a reference is.