How frequent are vermin encounters in your game?

[fanboy2000]

Depends on what you mean by "in"

Depends on what you mean by vermin. Are you speaking with the 3e definition in mind? Or more like the 2e non-definite term that saw use in spells like anti-vermin barrier?

Also, what do the choices mean? If I use vermin about every other game, is that "Often," or only "Sometimes"?

I had the 3e and 3.5 definition in mind. (ie, vermin in the appendix of the MM) But if people answered it in the more general everyday sense, no big deal.

Every other game would seem to be often to me, but use you own judgement. I didn't have a specific number range in mind. If someone thinks they use vermin often when they run them every 18 months, I'm not going to mind.

While I'm on the subject of the more common use of vermin, I remember an adventure where, in the module I was running, ash rats toped off a series of encounters that had worn down my group of 1st levels. It was like rubbing salt into a wound. They overcame them, but rats never seemed the same to me afterwords.

 

[justanobody]

Except in DnD Rats are not "Vermin." Vermin: "This type includes insects, arachnids, other arthropods, worms, and similar invertebrates."

Depends on what you mean by vermin. Are you speaking with the 3e definition in mind? Or more like the 2e non-definite term that saw use in spells like anti-vermin barrier?

With this spell, the caster creates an invisible force field that repels nonmagical insects, rodents, spiders, snakes, worms, and similar vermin of less than 1 Hit Die.

Copyright 1999 TSR Inc.

I have said it before and will say it again, anyone falling for the trappings of some keyword system trying to rewrite the language needs to stop. Vermin has a definition, if it was intended only to be about 3rd edition this thread should have said so.

I just love how it all boils down to most times D&D is only 3rd edition and up.

I also like this one:

This spell creates a magical barrier around the recipient, preventing the attacks of nonintelligent monsters of less than 1 Hit Die.

Copyright 1999 TSR Inc.

What are vermin!?!? See the bold portion.

I had the 3e and 3.5 definition in mind.

Sorry I entered and disrupted your thread. I will leave you to your 3rd edition version of vermin without further derail.

 

[fanboy2000]

Sorry I entered and disrupted your thread. I will leave you to your 3rd edition version of vermin without further derail.

It's a laid back thread. I had never heard of the spell "Protection from Vermin" so I learned something new. I'll leave the heated discussions to the 4e debates.

 

[justanobody]

It's a laid back thread. I had never heard of the spell "Protection from Vermin" so I learned something new. I'll leave the heated discussions to the 4e debates.

Player's Options: Spells and Magic is I think where it is from. I didn't check while I had the program open.

 

[the Jester]

The 'vermin' spells are from the 2e Tome of Magic.

That said, if you're defining it with the 2e definition, isn't that as tunnel-visioned as using the 3e definition?

 

[justanobody]

The 'vermin' spells are from the 2e Tome of Magic.

That said, if you're defining it with the 2e definition, isn't that as tunnel-visioned as using the 3e definition?

No sorry, but it is Spells and Magic for Prot-vermin. I would rather have tunnel vision with a broader and more correct definition, than blinders on to only see 3rd or any other edition that tries to keyword something outside of common English use.

Vermin = pests, including order rodentia

 

[Eric Tolle]

I haven't had any at all since we fumigated the house. Of course getting the players not to leave food around helped.


...what?

 

[justanobody]

I haven't had any at all since we fumigated the house.

Vermin or players?

 

[Glyfair]

I found one solution is to have various humanoid groups that use insects, either as mounts, symbiotes, or weapons. My PCs are coming across some jungle-dwelling cannibals that use praying mantids for mounts and guards, use immobilizing centipedes as grenade-like weapons (tossing them at the feet, letting them attack as normal), and use corpse slugs to compliment the ghouls they venerate.

Runequest/Glorantha trolls are great for use of insects. Outside of Glorantha, I have very rarely used them.

 

[Rechan]

Runequest/Glorantha trolls are great for use of insects. Outside of Glorantha, I have very rarely used them.

Could you give some information about them?