reapersaurus
Explorer
As i remember about this, there was some VERY badly thought out (meaning too powerful) spells, but other than a few things to cut back on, it had a lot of good stuff.
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How good is the Book of Eldritch Magic?
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BEM
Actually, I thought the PrCs in the Book of Eldritch Might were, in general, both more interesting and better balanced than those in Tome and Blood. Of course, that's IMHO....
Out of curiosity, what spells did you find too powerful? I haven't had a problem with any of them although, I have to admit, not all have been used yet in my campaign.
Actually, I thought the PrCs in the Book of Eldritch Might were, in general, both more interesting and better balanced than those in Tome and Blood. Of course, that's IMHO....
Out of curiosity, what spells did you find too powerful? I haven't had a problem with any of them although, I have to admit, not all have been used yet in my campaign.
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Wulf Ratbane
Adventurer
Re: BEM
Bolt of Conjuring is questionable.
Off the top of my head: 3rd level, medium range, single target, ranged touch, no save. 1d4/level damage AND it conjures a Summon I creature to attack the target at the same time.
As for whether or not they are balanced, I generally trust Monte, but a combination of factors made the spell too good to be true as far as our party was concerned:
Our party wizard (a transmuter, barred from evocation, but not from conjuration, snicker snicker) zaps the bad guy, *and* a celestial badger pops out, and then *I* get to sneak attack the bejeezus out of him because he's suddenly flanked by a throwaway critter...
Wulf
nharwell said:
Bolt of Conjuring is questionable.
Off the top of my head: 3rd level, medium range, single target, ranged touch, no save. 1d4/level damage AND it conjures a Summon I creature to attack the target at the same time.
As for whether or not they are balanced, I generally trust Monte, but a combination of factors made the spell too good to be true as far as our party was concerned:
Our party wizard (a transmuter, barred from evocation, but not from conjuration, snicker snicker) zaps the bad guy, *and* a celestial badger pops out, and then *I* get to sneak attack the bejeezus out of him because he's suddenly flanked by a throwaway critter...
Wulf
Sir Osis of Liver
Explorer
the construct template is also real cool, you can finally create Minoton from that old sinbad movie!
Over all I'd say it's worth getting, especially as a PDF. That's the way I got it, now i can laugh at my friends because i got it for a measly $5.
Over all I'd say it's worth getting, especially as a PDF. That's the way I got it, now i can laugh at my friends because i got it for a measly $5.
Psion
Adventurer
Re: Re: BEM
Yup. I house ruled on that one right away. I figured I'd let the no save stand (basically, its like a pumped up magic missile), but the no Magic resistance just had to go.
The badger has been next to useless. Even if the party has though about using it to set up flanking attacks (and I am honestly astonished that they haven't thought of it yet), I have my "ignore" rule. Basically, if you think a target in unimportant, you can deny it granting a flanking bonus by ignoring it. The target gets a free attack of opportunity on you every round and treats you as stunned, but it cannot effectively flank you.
Wulf Ratbane said:
Yup. I house ruled on that one right away. I figured I'd let the no save stand (basically, its like a pumped up magic missile), but the no Magic resistance just had to go.
The badger has been next to useless. Even if the party has though about using it to set up flanking attacks (and I am honestly astonished that they haven't thought of it yet), I have my "ignore" rule. Basically, if you think a target in unimportant, you can deny it granting a flanking bonus by ignoring it. The target gets a free attack of opportunity on you every round and treats you as stunned, but it cannot effectively flank you.
Wulf Ratbane
Adventurer
Heh...
Can I come to your game and disguise myself as a badger?
Ignore ME, will ya? (thwap-thwap-thwap-thwap-thwap)
Oh yeah... Expert Tactician: (thwap)
Can I come to your game and disguise myself as a badger?
Ignore ME, will ya? (thwap-thwap-thwap-thwap-thwap)
Oh yeah... Expert Tactician: (thwap)
Psion
Adventurer
Whoops, forgot to add my two cents:
I think it is a great book, with some very interesting feats, prestige classes, spells, and magic items.
I do dislike that so little of it is OGC. In fact, this so vexes me, I am considering replacing all of my graven ones with Tatooed Mages (fron FanCC) and making an OGC mirror-themed-mage of my own.
PS: Wolf... typically only heavily armored or otherwise immune targets (e.g., outsiders with high DRs) typically use the ignore option.
I think it is a great book, with some very interesting feats, prestige classes, spells, and magic items.
I do dislike that so little of it is OGC. In fact, this so vexes me, I am considering replacing all of my graven ones with Tatooed Mages (fron FanCC) and making an OGC mirror-themed-mage of my own.
PS: Wolf... typically only heavily armored or otherwise immune targets (e.g., outsiders with high DRs) typically use the ignore option.
reapersaurus
Explorer
All the things in there that increased the DC's of your spells are a VERY bad idea.
In general, it seemd Monte wanted to put out a book that basically gave mages the ability to do just about everything (i.e. there seemed a spell for every eventuality)
He doesn't seem to think that there's anything beyond the scope of a mage... (i'm surprised he didn't make a Sor/Wiz spell that Smites evil, or Cures Wounds, or helps the mage steal stuff)
The Primal Release spell seemed insanely powerful: +10 inherent bonus to STR?
I know I'd love to plop that onto my Strength-Smack and get into the 90's in STR.
I can't find the thing that really made me go ""Whoa" originally, but the various Mark * spells make me think he wanted his cake and eat it too...
In general, it seemd Monte wanted to put out a book that basically gave mages the ability to do just about everything (i.e. there seemed a spell for every eventuality)
He doesn't seem to think that there's anything beyond the scope of a mage... (i'm surprised he didn't make a Sor/Wiz spell that Smites evil, or Cures Wounds, or helps the mage steal stuff)
The Primal Release spell seemed insanely powerful: +10 inherent bonus to STR?
I know I'd love to plop that onto my Strength-Smack and get into the 90's in STR.
I can't find the thing that really made me go ""Whoa" originally, but the various Mark * spells make me think he wanted his cake and eat it too...
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