The "top layer" being the approximately 400 books sitting on top of the black tablecloth.
Yes, but I'm sure each has diminishing returns.
For "some" other players. I'm sure I'm not alone, especially when I see the amount of in-person games compared to online games.
They claimed it was a successful launch at the time, so clearly they were unconcerned with the unsold copies you saw.
Really? You have sure and concrete insight into sales data in this hobby that famously does not report or aggregate such data in any means approaching accuracy? Or are you just making assumptions based on your somewhat strange belief about how the game is underperforming
Now you have insight into the number of in-person games of Pathfinder 2? When did you perform the census because I think you missed my group.
A selection of books comprised of the last 3 or so products in both the PF2 and SF game lines with what appears to be just a stack of each games CRB’s. Looks like a perfectly fine assortment to be selling.
No. I just know that campaign books, books of setting information, books with specific themed classes do not sell as well as core books, which every group (and most players) need.
Surprisingly, yes, I've done this. When listing my PFS game on the database, it shows you the activity of organized play, and if online or in-person. PFS is much stronger online than in-person.
That knowledge of course goes against Paizo's statements about their business where they indicate that their bread and butter is the sale of campaign books. AP's are what fuels that company and they make no bones about it, nor have they ever. So you're not quoting "knowledge" you're guessing. And your guess is based on your bias.
Okay, but you didn't say PFS games. You said "the number of in person games compared to online games" which is an unknowable figure. And no, comparing two listed organized play game times does not count as "surprisingly" conducting a census.
Is this supposed to act as some sort of backing for your claim that books won't sell at GenCon? Because your rulebooks are never outdated because Paizo provides you with a document reflecting all the latest changes.
That's a you thing, that's not a universal truth for all players. It may not even be a universal truth for most players.
Really, what other ways should I alter my play style? Please do tell me what else I can do to play my games the way the all knowing Retreater would...
Look at all of those "I" statements, breathe it in for a second, then exhale as you realize that all of these - this industry, Paizo's business model, those books at GenCon - are not about you.
I’ll need to dig it up to confirm.
Very true but I chalk pf1e up to the edition wars. The market split really started with the birth of the OSR and D20 fatigue. 4e was just a sort of thumb shaking at the 3.5 fanbase, unintentional, that didn’t help so Pathfinder became a bigger emblem of that split because it picked up those who didn’t move to 4e. I think their market is now Paizo fans and not edition warriors or 3.5 players looking to continue to use their books considering how far PF1e moved away from 3.5 as the supplement churn started and how close to 1e that 2e actually really is when you look at the entirety of the Lifecycle and Pathfinder Unchained’s various optional rules that were implemented.
Yeah, I think this is mostly true. In many of the PF2e communities I'm in there is a lot of 5e bashing, so the edition war is still ongoing just not between 3.5 diehards and everyone else anymore. But in general, I just like being a Paizo customer/fan more. They produce more stuff that I think is higher quality, they continually develop their lore and setting, their pre-made adventures are second to none, and in general there's a sense of a community-company relationship where there is none with WotC. Paizo would not exist without it's fans and the communities they create and Paizo acts like it, WotC could not give less of a damn about their players or the people making third party content for their game. This isn't to say Paizo has never made massive embarrassing mistakes (remember Pathfinder Online?), just that blow for blow I enjoy being a part of Pathfinder communities more so than most 5e communities.
