How is that babe in the barely there armor getting any AC bonus?

[afstanton]

FWIW, I met my ex-wife via D&D. One of the best gamers I've had the pleasure of being a player next to, and of DMing.

 

[Morrus]

If you want, I could send you a pdf copy of E.N. Arsenal - Chainmail Bikinis.

Even better - she could buy it!

 

[Darkwolf71]

I'm also fascinated as to why, in a survey regarding female gamers and how to attract them to RPGing, they are referred to as 'girls' instead of, say, 'female gamers' or indeed 'women'.

And when you speak of the individuals you game with, do you call them 'male gamers' or 'men', or do you just call them 'the guys' like most of the rest of us do?

 

[Obryn]

...So am I the only one who HATES the scantily clad pictures of women and much, much perfers someone in some actual armor?

Nope. In fact, it's one of my favorite things about the cover of WFRP2. Yes, there's a woman on the cover. In full, non-sexy, functional armor, killing a beastman. Right there behind the ugly trollslayer and the horribly scarred (and also ugly) Priest of Sigmar.

-O

 

[Obryn]

Having read more of the thread by now...

The casual sexism is pretty nasty to read, actually. It makes me pretty sad to see this level of juvenile, puerile excuses for jokes from a lot of posters, most of which I very much like.

Word.

-O

 

[Darkwolf71]

From part of my response to the questionere:

"SHOULD the RPG industry change how women are portrayed or should women stop whining about it?"


A little from column A, a little from column B...
I appreciate art of fantastical female warriors in skimpy armor. I also like art of Conan type barbarians bare chested and muscles buldging. For different reasons, of course but both have their place in fantasy art and RPGs. However, we could also use more 'realistic' female fighter type art.

Really all of those being 'offended' need to toughen up IMO. There are far more offensive instances of the objectification of women that could be reviled. To waste it on fantasy art is an injustice.

 

[dmccoy1693]

Really all of those being 'offended' need to toughen up IMO. There are far more offensive instances of the objectification of women that could be reviled. To waste it on fantasy art is an injustice.

HYpothetical: If you saw a picture of fantasy artwork where the guy was wearing nothing but an athletic supporter and you saw a bulge and you saw your wife/gf/etc oggling it, would you really want to open that book again?

 

[Darkwolf71]

HYpothetical: If you saw a picture of fantasy artwork where the guy was wearing nothing but an athletic supporter and you saw a bulge and you saw your wife/gf/etc oggling it, would you really want to open that book again?

Oh, I imagine she'd ask why I didn't look like that any more and I would reply with something about her fitting into her size 3 jeans again and we'd have a laugh before going back to real life.

 

[Eric Tolle]

...So am I the only one who HATES the scantily clad pictures of women and much, much perfers someone in some actual armor?

No you aren't.

Not at all.

 

[jeffh]

Had four female players out of a total of seven in my Shackled City game until one of them left. All are married, two to other members of the group, but they didn't necessarily all start that way (in fact, all four weddings took place since the group first formed). The only one who could reasonably be said to have been dragged into it by her now-husband very quickly ended up being one of the most enthusiastic members of the group, definitely one of the ones I have in mind when I joke about them chaining me to a table and forcing me to run games whenever I'm in town (second only to her husband).

As for the artwork question, overtly erotic artwork has its place and so does artwork of realistic women in realistic armour, but art that would be expected to provide examples of typical D&D characters in action really should lean toward the latter much more than it does. There's nothing inherently wrong with women in skimpy outfits, in contexts where that makes sense; going into battle is not such a context.