Li Shenron
Legend
arnwyn said:
Ok... 25mm=1" right? So that's the diameter of the round base, I guess. What to you mean that larger minis fit better? I supposed they were double the size...
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Ok... 25mm=1" right? So that's the diameter of the round base, I guess. What to you mean that larger minis fit better? I supposed they were double the size...
KB9JMQ
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I haven't DMed with my mini's yet but as a player when even after only buying two starters and two boosters we were able to use some.
I just handed the DM a mini for whatever he said was there if I had it. Several I did and several I didn't.
But everyone liked having a mini which actually looks like the creature you are encountering or at least in my group they do.
Now that I have all the Harbingers adn only missing 10 each from Dragoneye and Archfiends I can't wait to DM so I can use them
I just handed the DM a mini for whatever he said was there if I had it. Several I did and several I didn't.
But everyone liked having a mini which actually looks like the creature you are encountering or at least in my group they do.
Now that I have all the Harbingers adn only missing 10 each from Dragoneye and Archfiends I can't wait to DM so I can use them
Firstly I should say that painting minis is one of my hobbies (so I tend to buy minis just because I want to paint them, not just to use them in a game)
PC's usualy have their own mini (sometimes bought and painted specificly for that purpose)
Important NPC's tend to have their own minis as well. but minor NPC's do not (like thugs, goblins, or other low level creatures). When using a grid its more important that the base is the right size rather then the mini ontop, so I'd buy a few with 1" bases (humans, orcs, goblins) and maybe 1 or two larger minins (Giants and the like).
PC's usualy have their own mini (sometimes bought and painted specificly for that purpose)
Important NPC's tend to have their own minis as well. but minor NPC's do not (like thugs, goblins, or other low level creatures). When using a grid its more important that the base is the right size rather then the mini ontop, so I'd buy a few with 1" bases (humans, orcs, goblins) and maybe 1 or two larger minins (Giants and the like).
Altamont Ravenard
Explorer
I have 320 WotC minis, and a handfull of metal ones I bought to represent my characters over the years. I think they're useful, although, for my taste, there are too many humanoids and too many orcs. Could have used more different monsters 
.
I don't have complete collections. I bought a case of Archfiends when they came out, and got 50 of the 60 minis. I'll probably buy a few individual minis so I can get every mini I want (some I simply don't care for. It's not about having them all for me).
The people I play with don't like when the mini that is used doesnt exactly represent the creature or monster we're fighting (not sure why) and they would sometimes rather use wooden cubes for a hellcat (for example) instead of using a hellhound... go figure.
I have to admit that my compulsive nature has resurfaced with the WotC minis. I like having more. Like Li said, "How many packs do you need? I need more"...
As for size, the bases are for 3.5, althoug sometimes the limbs and various appendages from the WotC plastic minis will protrude from the space the creature is supposed to occupy. It's sometimes a pain when you try to fit a couple of those right next to each other.
AR
.I don't have complete collections. I bought a case of Archfiends when they came out, and got 50 of the 60 minis. I'll probably buy a few individual minis so I can get every mini I want (some I simply don't care for. It's not about having them all for me).
The people I play with don't like when the mini that is used doesnt exactly represent the creature or monster we're fighting (not sure why) and they would sometimes rather use wooden cubes for a hellcat (for example) instead of using a hellhound... go figure.
I have to admit that my compulsive nature has resurfaced with the WotC minis. I like having more. Like Li said, "How many packs do you need? I need more"...
As for size, the bases are for 3.5, althoug sometimes the limbs and various appendages from the WotC plastic minis will protrude from the space the creature is supposed to occupy. It's sometimes a pain when you try to fit a couple of those right next to each other.
AR
Nifft
Penguin Herder
I have a bunch -- never bothered to count -- and I like them. The vrock is great, and I have tons of random "good enough" monsters, like Abyssal Eviscerators, which can stand in for anything spikey and icky and mean. (Last night, they were three Green Slaadi.)
I like that they require no care, because I'm not a mini-painter kinda guy.
-- N
I like that they require no care, because I'm not a mini-painter kinda guy.
-- N
Arnwyn
First Post
Quadruple the size.Li Shenron said:
"Large" creatures in 3.5e have a space of 10', so the minis for "Large" creatures will always fit right into four 1" (5') squares. They are designed expressely for this purpose.
"Large" minis from other companies, though, may not fit into four 1" squares as they are not designed with 3.5e standards in mind.
So that's what I meant when I said that "WotC's 'larger' minis fit better". (I'm not particularly articulate today, so I hope I'm explaining myself adequately...)
diaglo
Adventurer
johnsemlak said:
i have purchased 800 of the WotC plastic minis. my hat of them know no limit.
they are no better than the counters. so my answer is to your question is :NONE
don't waste your money. use the counters or coins or legos or other plastic army men.
you don't need the minis from WotC.
johnsemlak
First Post
uh, so why did you purchase 800 of them, Diaglo?diaglo said:i have purchased 800 of the WotC plastic minis. my hat of them know no limit.
they are no better than the counters. so my answer is to your question is :NONE
don't waste your money. use the counters or coins or legos or other plastic army men.
you don't need the minis from WotC.
Li Shenron said:Heh...
A stupid question: are WotC minis of a standard size? I suppose there are more than one standard sizes for minis in general, I just wonder if the D&D line is compatible with other lines... How tall is a typical medium-size char D&D mini? How wide is the square of a battlemap supposed to be, compared to the size of a minis base?
The D&D minis are based on a 25mm (1:60) scale, which is pretty much the industry standard. All of Games Workshop's Warhammer and related lines are produced at that scale, as is their Lord of the Rings line. I believe the HeroClix and Mage-Knight lines from WizKids are also at that scale, but I'm not sure. So they're all reasonably compatible, and I mix and match freely in my games.
For the D&D set, the base on a medium-sized creature should fit in a one-inch square on your battlemap. A large creature would take up four squares, and so on, as outlined in the PHB.
jgsugden
Legend
In the late 70s and early 80s, I began my collection of metal minis with a box of PC types and 2 boxes of monsters. No matter what the players played or faced off against, those minis were what I used.
As we closed in on the mid 80s, I expanded my collection slowly. I added some plastic figures I found in toy sets. I bought some more metal figures (with paper route money) for important monsters the PCs would be facing. I bought a collection of leads I found at a garage sale. By the time 2nd edition was released, I had about 100 metal figures and 50 other figures.
As second edition was released, I entered high school and took on higher paying jobs ... which allowed me to purchase more equipment for the game. Books, magazines, boxed sets and modules were the majority of my purchases, but I continued to add figures at a steady rate when needed. By this point, if I needed a monster, I usually had *something* that could play the part pretty well. 500 metal figures, 200 plastic.
When I went to college, I left my figures behind. Instead of running games, I was a player most of the time. I brought a few PC types with me for use in games, but for the most part, my collection stagnated. I even gave away a bunch of my figures to other DMs.
Then, beginning in law school, I returned to my DMing as 3.0 was released. Healthy positions and a loving and supportive wife allowed me to increase my collection at an alarming rate. EBay and other online resources allowed me to find nice metal collections for very cheap prices. To go with all my figures from my youth, I added armies of common creatures (skeletons, orcs, goblins, etc ...) and those oddball creatures that you run into once every 4 or 5 years. By the time DDM was released last winter, I was up to 2,000 metal figures and about 300 plastic figures.
Since DDM was released, my collection has only grown by a few lead figures, but I have carefully crafted my DDM purchases to fill in many of the gaps I used to have in my armies. I buy a few boosters and trade at maxminis to get those select rares I want, focusing on the monsters that fill out my ranks of PC foes and monstrous allies. I use sites that sell singles to get those common armies I want (dretches, abyssal maws, etc ...)
Now my collection is well over 2000 metal figures and 500 plastic/vinyl figures. It will continue to grow, slowly, but I've pretty much reached critical mass in most of the common areas. Many figures have moved from the display book cases to the den shelves to make room for better designs (or better paint jobs). I expect to collect a lot more DDM monsters from future expansions and trade for a few more of the older expansion figures, but for the most part, I'm happy with where I'm standing right now.
So, how many do you need? You can get by with a few dozen rather easily.
How many can you use? There are no limits ...
As we closed in on the mid 80s, I expanded my collection slowly. I added some plastic figures I found in toy sets. I bought some more metal figures (with paper route money) for important monsters the PCs would be facing. I bought a collection of leads I found at a garage sale. By the time 2nd edition was released, I had about 100 metal figures and 50 other figures.
As second edition was released, I entered high school and took on higher paying jobs ... which allowed me to purchase more equipment for the game. Books, magazines, boxed sets and modules were the majority of my purchases, but I continued to add figures at a steady rate when needed. By this point, if I needed a monster, I usually had *something* that could play the part pretty well. 500 metal figures, 200 plastic.
When I went to college, I left my figures behind. Instead of running games, I was a player most of the time. I brought a few PC types with me for use in games, but for the most part, my collection stagnated. I even gave away a bunch of my figures to other DMs.
Then, beginning in law school, I returned to my DMing as 3.0 was released. Healthy positions and a loving and supportive wife allowed me to increase my collection at an alarming rate. EBay and other online resources allowed me to find nice metal collections for very cheap prices. To go with all my figures from my youth, I added armies of common creatures (skeletons, orcs, goblins, etc ...) and those oddball creatures that you run into once every 4 or 5 years. By the time DDM was released last winter, I was up to 2,000 metal figures and about 300 plastic figures.
Since DDM was released, my collection has only grown by a few lead figures, but I have carefully crafted my DDM purchases to fill in many of the gaps I used to have in my armies. I buy a few boosters and trade at maxminis to get those select rares I want, focusing on the monsters that fill out my ranks of PC foes and monstrous allies. I use sites that sell singles to get those common armies I want (dretches, abyssal maws, etc ...)
Now my collection is well over 2000 metal figures and 500 plastic/vinyl figures. It will continue to grow, slowly, but I've pretty much reached critical mass in most of the common areas. Many figures have moved from the display book cases to the den shelves to make room for better designs (or better paint jobs). I expect to collect a lot more DDM monsters from future expansions and trade for a few more of the older expansion figures, but for the most part, I'm happy with where I'm standing right now.
So, how many do you need? You can get by with a few dozen rather easily.
How many can you use? There are no limits ...
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