HP per class for 4th ed? :)

[Silverblade The Ench]

Ok, so we KNOW rogues get 5 hp/level (and everyone gets triple at 1st level).

So, are Arcanes 4hp/level, Clerics 6hp/level, fighters/paladins 7hp/level, barbarians 8hp/level?

And will Con still have an affect on hps? I've read various on that: yes; no; only at 1st level.

Hm ?

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Ok, so we KNOW rogues get 5 hp/level (and everyone gets triple at 1st level).

So, are Arcanes 4hp/level, Clerics 6hp/level, fighters/paladins 7hp/level, barbarians 8hp/level?

And will Con still have an affect on hps? I've read various on that: yes; no; only at 1st level.

Hm ?

triple at first?????????

it is 12+const score at first... that is certainly not triple, except if you roll a 3 on const...

 

[Grazzt]

Ok, so we KNOW rogues get 5 hp/level (and everyone gets triple at 1st level).

So, are Arcanes 4hp/level, Clerics 6hp/level, fighters/paladins 7hp/level, barbarians 8hp/level?

And will Con still have an affect on hps? I've read various on that: yes; no; only at 1st level.

Hm ?

Triple at 1st is from SWSE. Looks like on the Rogue preview, 4e doesnt work that way. Doesnt appear that Con modifies the per level increase either (at least looking at the rogue article)

 

[Blue]

So, are Arcanes 4hp/level, Clerics 6hp/level, fighters/paladins 7hp/level, barbarians 8hp/level?

My guess is that we're going to see a bigger spread than that to help differentiate the class roles. Especially if CON isn't around on a per level basis. I'd say 3.5 HD - 1. So arcane casters 3/lvl, rogues 5/lvl, cleric/ranger 7/lvl, fighters/paladins 9/lvl, and barb 11/lvl. Makes a difference what class you are.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if some classes get an effective HD change. Specifically, arcane casters are just fragile, I can see them going up. Get away from the "one bad role can kill you, it'll take at least two" since they seem to be doing it elsewhere. Of course, they can now cast while wearing armor, so maybe not.

Cheers,
=Blue(23)

 

[Glyfair]

So arcane casters 3/lvl, rogues 5/lvl, cleric/ranger 7/lvl, fighters/paladins 9/lvl, and barb 11/lvl.

That was my thought. I really think the barbarian level is gone. I also suspect the lowest level is gone.

 

[Voss]

I hope so. Having someone down at 8 +3/level would be kinda sad, even with Con score worked in.

On the other hand, something like:
12 +5 (157 + Con at 30)
16 +7 (219 + Con at 30)
20 +9 (281 + Con at 30)
might be a bit too much. It makes the rogue seem extremely squishable, particularly for a character out in the thick of things.
by the by, 8 +3 would be a sad 95 + Con at level 30.