Human Paragon

Dannyalcatraz said:
There is a long established increasing trend of WotC doing that with a lot of the more generic spellcasting PrCls (at least for Psionics), although sometimes you'd have to look in a sidebar to notice it.

It would save them a LOT of paper and ink if they'd just draft a general rule like "You may substitute Psionics for Arcane Magic and Meldshaping for Divine Magic for purposes of satisfying the requirements of PrCls."

Obviously, it would need some tweeking, but as a general rule, it wouldn't hurt the game. At the very least, you wouldn't need to waste paper and ink by publishing variations on the Mystic Theurge every time you come up with a new "magic" system.
IIRC, Magic of Eberron has such a rule for artificers, allowing infuser level to substitute for caster level for PrC prerequsities, as long as neither a divine nor arcane spellcaster level is specified. I forget the exact wording.

I agree with you, that's something that should be applied as a guideline to other abilities as well (& applying tweaking where needed).
 

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irdeggman said:
None.

A 3rd level ranger has no caster level.

He doesn't get one until 4th level, at which time he has a caster level equal to 1/2 his class level.

So a ranger (and a paladin) goes from 0 level spellcaster to 2nd level spellcaster. At no time do they ever have a 1st level spellcaster, even though they have 1st level spells (at 2nd level spellcaster).
I disagree.

A 3rd level ranger has no caster level, but ranger is still a spellcasting class and therefore Human Paragon can still add to it. As soon as it does, the character casts as a ranger 4, which as you note means caster level 2 (and first level spells).


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