D&D 5E Human Revenant question

[OniDaimyo]

In the UA article, does a human revenant get the +1 to every stat, then a +1 to two more stats and a +1 to con? OR do they only get a +1 to two stats and a +1 to con? If its a character who died and came back as a revenant, that's kinda a pain to reduce every stat by 1 except for two and then increase con by 1...

 

[MrHotter]

Does a human revenant get the +1 to every stat, then a +1 to two more stats and a +1 to con? OR do they only get a +1 to two stats and a +1 to con? If its a character who died and came back as a revenant, that's kinda a pain to reduce every stat by 1 except for two and then increase con by 1...

Where are you getting the info on a Revenant as a player?

The Monster Manual does not mention a player becoming a revenant, but if you go with what they have under the info for vampire or wherewolf players, then you would not change the current stats/abilities for the player unless the revenant would have higher stats.

It should be more of a template on top of the current player's abilities. It's a definite power boost, so make sure all the players are ok with this.

 

[OniDaimyo]

Unearthed Arcana? The Gothic Hero's one?

 

[MrHotter]

Unearthed Arcana? The Gothic Hero's one?

Ahh...that makes sense.
https://dnd.wizards.com/sites/default/files/media/upload/articles/UA Gothic Characters.pdf

It looks like you would reduce all of your stats but two of them by one point but then add one point to constitution.

For balance sake it's replacing your subrace abilities with the revenant subrace abilities. Humans/Dragonborn/Tiefling did not have subrace abilities in the Players Handbook, so they had special rules for that.

 

[BookBarbarian]

Ahh...that makes sense.
https://dnd.wizards.com/sites/default/files/media/upload/articles/UA Gothic Characters.pdf

It looks like you would reduce all of your stats but two of them by one point but then add one point to constitution.

For balance sake it's replacing your subrace abilities with the revenant subrace abilities. Humans/Dragonborn/Tiefling did not have subrace abilities in the Players Handbook, so they had special rules for that.

Yup this. Revenants get some big bonuses. Losing some 1s to stats is the trade off.

 

[OniDaimyo]

Ok. Hmm I am unsure if I will be a revenant then or not. I like the plus 1 to every stat humans get..
So what of a half elf Revenant?

 

[MrHotter]

Ok. Hmm I am unsure if I will be a revenant then or not. I like the plus 1 to every stat humans get..
So what of a half elf Revenant?

They've left off half-elf and half-orc from the PHB races without sub-races list. Add in the races from other official sources and you would need to figure out aarakocra, goliath, firbolg, and many others.

If I had to house rule a half-elf revenant I would say remove the +2 charisma and the Skill Versatility feature. That would still leave them better off than the human or variant human.

 

[OniDaimyo]

That's way too weak. Sage Advice actually said reduce CHA to +1 and remove skill versatility. And Half-Elfs DO have subraces now. Sword Coast Adventurers Guide has some.

 

[CTurbo]

I would personally just add a +1 to Con on top of the regular Human stat boosts. It makes sense to me.

 

[OniDaimyo]

Do Revenants need to eat, sleep, drink and breathe? Like will it adversely affect them if they dont do those things? Sure they can't die permanently but could a revenant be starved to death? Drown? Die from lack of sleep or water and then have to wait 24 hours to come back?

 

[OniDaimyo]

Do revenants rot, or otherwise look not normal? The MM ones do but the MM one regen 10 HP a round. The PC version is obviously different and weaker. There needs to be far more info given about these things. Like can a revenant have kids or get someone pregnant? Can a revenant try to ignore its purpose for a while? My revenant is working through his Godess so he's doing her work, not just his own personal goal or vendetta.

 

[hastur_nz]

It's not meant for players to create a new character, it's designed for a DM and player to collaborate and get a dead PC back into the game, with a limited duration. It's rough around the edges, because the DM can easily figure out any relevant tweaks or whatever in relation to the campaign at hand.
(I've used the Revenant in 4e, and also 5e, when a PC died and his player was keen to have him return to help complete the mission).

 

[OniDaimyo]

That is totally untrue. It does not say it is specifically meant for a older PC to use only. No where does it say that ONLY a established PC can use it.

 

[The Grassy Gnoll]

Revenants are kinda cool. Thrown off a cliff? Sigh. See you in a bit.


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[BookBarbarian]

Do revenants rot, or otherwise look not normal? The MM ones do but the MM one regen 10 HP a round. The PC version is obviously different and weaker. There needs to be far more info given about these things. Like can a revenant have kids or get someone pregnant? Can a revenant try to ignore its purpose for a while? My revenant is working through his Godess so he's doing her work, not just his own personal goal or vendetta.

Do Revenants need to eat, sleep, drink and breathe? Like will it adversely affect them if they dont do those things? Sure they can't die permanently but could a revenant be starved to death? Drown? Die from lack of sleep or water and then have to wait 24 hours to come back?

You have many questions. The revenent race was published in a UA article. it is playtest material, not published material. There are no official answers to these questions. If your DM is allowing the use of this playtest material in your groups campaign, then the two of you can work out these details together.

For my game Revenants are reanimated corpses. They would not have to eat, but at first they might try because they are used to it, but they would gain no satisfaction from doing so. They would not be fertile, and would rot. They would need to breath to speak, but not to survive. They would not need sleep, but would still need to long rest to regain class abilities that replenish from long rests.

But like I said, that's for my game.

 

[BookBarbarian]

Revenants are kinda cool. Thrown off a cliff? Sigh. See you in a bit.


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Yup. I think they are really thematic in a game like Curse of Strahd, but I would hesitate to have one in other campaigns.

 

[OniDaimyo]

You have many questions. The revenent race was published in a UA article. it is playtest material, not published material. There are no official answers to these questions. If your DM is allowing the use of this playtest material in your groups campaign, then the two of you can work out these details together.

For my game Revenants are reanimated corpses. They would not have to eat, but at first they might try because they are used to it, but they would gain no satisfaction from doing so. They would not be fertile, and would rot. They would need to breath to speak, but not to survive. They would not need sleep, but would still need to long rest to regain class abilities that replenish from long rests.

But like I said, that's for my game.

Revenants are actually NOT undead as we know them to be anyway. Their type does NOT become Undead. As per Sage Advice answer. They are not immune to poison for example. So I guess PC version Revenants are more like the Crow than some undead thing back for revenge. That IS an official answer.

 

[BookBarbarian]

Revenants are actually NOT undead as we know them to be anyway. Their type does NOT become Undead. As per Sage Advice answer. They are not immune to poison for example. So I guess PC version Revenants are more like the Crow than some undead thing back for revenge. That IS an official answer.

Fair enough. How goes you quest to get those other questions answered?

 

[OniDaimyo]

Fair enough. How goes you quest to get those other questions answered?

I doubt they will ever be answered. I think the Sage Advice guys are past Revenants. Maybe when it's October again lol. I think they did say that they don't need to eat or sleep or any of that. I wonder what their type is then if not Undead? I guess you're just whatever type most PCs are with some benefits.

 

[BookBarbarian]

I doubt they will ever be answered. I think the Sage Advice guys are past Revenants. Maybe when it's October again lol. I think they did say that they don't need to eat or sleep or any of that. I wonder what their type is then if not Undead? I guess you're just whatever type most PCs are with some benefits.

I wonder if they were afraid of making the type Undead because of potentially having odd interactions with class abilities like Turn Undead. Probably just playing it safe.