frankthedm
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Improvised two handed sap.
-4 to hit, 1d8 x2 crit, all damage nonlethal.
-4 to hit, 1d8 x2 crit, all damage nonlethal.
Hyena-Chucks
- Thread starter pallandrome
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FreeXenon
American Male (he/him); INTP ADHD Introverted Geek
I do not see why it wouldn't. If you grabbed my by my feet and beat the OP with my I am pretty sure that I would not be feeling so well. Perhaps equal damage for both?
You may have to also win a grapple check to do as such as you are grappling the Hyena, albeit with a significant advantage?
We are definitely treading into house rule territory with this, as afar as I can remember, this is definitely not specifically covered by the rules.
You may have to also win a grapple check to do as such as you are grappling the Hyena, albeit with a significant advantage?
We are definitely treading into house rule territory with this, as afar as I can remember, this is definitely not specifically covered by the rules.
FreeXenon
American Male (he/him); INTP ADHD Introverted Geek
Perhaps grapple check, which you will most likely win, to allow you to control the squirming and not-quite-so-laughing hyena enough to attack at -4 with damage to both?
Maybe Plainsailing, Hypersmurf, or I2K might wander around with an opinion.
Maybe Plainsailing, Hypersmurf, or I2K might wander around with an opinion.
pallandrome
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Sadly, after the -20 on the check (netting me a +1 total modifier) I still rolled a 17. See, when you have 32 strength, it really doesn't matter WHAT you hit the other guy with. I really would want to see one of their opinions on the matter. This group I'm in seems to have a thing for creating situations not found in the rules. We try for at least 3 DM eyerolls a night.
I gave this matter some thought a few years ago when I was thinking about running a Midnight campaign and wanted to have some of the bad guys use halflings as weapons.
I would run it as follows:
- full-round action
- grapple check with -20 penalty to pin/control the hyena
- attack opponent with -4 penalty for improvised weapon
- non-lethal damage to opponent as a large or even huge sap (I would tend toward large)
- hyena takes lethal damage equal to that inflicted on the opponent (but without the benefit of any damage reduction the opponent might have)
- if the attack roll misses but was high enough for a successful touch attack then the hyena still takes damage
Once the hyena is dead then the wielder can gain iterative attacks as normal for an improvised weapon.
I would run it as follows:
- full-round action
- grapple check with -20 penalty to pin/control the hyena
- attack opponent with -4 penalty for improvised weapon
- non-lethal damage to opponent as a large or even huge sap (I would tend toward large)
- hyena takes lethal damage equal to that inflicted on the opponent (but without the benefit of any damage reduction the opponent might have)
- if the attack roll misses but was high enough for a successful touch attack then the hyena still takes damage
Once the hyena is dead then the wielder can gain iterative attacks as normal for an improvised weapon.
