I cheated last game session

[BSF]

I got knocked to 2 hit points and was 30 feet away from the last monster I disengaged and moved back 60 feet the creature followed me 90 feet and got a full attack on me and took me down to -6 the dM rolled low. The NPC then killed the last creature and had a wand of healing and healed us enough to get us going again.

We captured him and killed the soldiers and rescued our party members. We had master work manaclues and a gag and hood tied on this mage. As were going back to the sewers with our prisoner he managed to using escape artist get out of everyhing and throw 5 magic missles at me and teleport away. I was the one leading him through the sewer. The magic missles killed me and that was when I cheated.

I was really angry not that the guy got away I really don't have a problem with the DM bending the rules to let the bad guy escape but I had a big problem with him bending the rules and letting the guy attack us.

It looks like it was happening all night. Unless I misread you, you were also dealing with a monster moving 90' and getting a full attack action. It could be that a 9th level spellcaster had something to provide Free Action. But I kind of doubt it. There are a lot of events that look like your DM is either running an adversarial game, or is having difficulty managing the scale of encounters and power within the game. Maybe it was just an off night, but with some of your other posts it sure sounds like the DM is floundering a bit.

 

[Teflon Billy]

Somebody get a rope.

LOL

 

[Elf Witch]

It looks like it was happening all night. Unless I misread you, you were also dealing with a monster moving 90' and getting a full attack action. It could be that a 9th level spellcaster had something to provide Free Action. But I kind of doubt it. There are a lot of events that look like your DM is either running an adversarial game, or is having difficulty managing the scale of encounters and power within the game. Maybe it was just an off night, but with some of your other posts it sure sounds like the DM is floundering a bit.

I really think he is having trouble. He is a great Shadowrun DM but that system is very different than DnD. He has experience playing 3E but this is his first time DMing it.

Things are different in Shadowrun you don't tend to encounter creatures and NPCs so much more powerful than you. Sure you might meet a mage who has really tricked out his stats and has some powerful foci so that he can cast his spells better than we can but that mage is still subject to drain and can flub his roll for drain badly.

Mages in DnD are more powerful as they level and a ninth level mage is going to be much more powerful than a fisrt level sorcerer. There are spells that you are just not supposed to encounter at lower levels because you do not have the HP or the saves to have a chance of living through them.

I am really thinking of a good way to apporach him over all of this. I don't want to turn the game into one where we are stopping the action every few minutes to argue rules. But as players we make decisions based on the rules.

The entire reason I disengaged and moved was that there should have been no way for this creature to get to me and I would have had time to take a potion to heal and then get back into the battle. I based my decision on my knowledge of the rules. Also even if he had a way to get to me I didn't think he would be able to use both attacks on me.

The other thing that has gotten me upset is that we defeated a 13 level mage and the CR for that is not even written for a party our level because it is to high. We took his magic items and his belt pouch they were in a backpack. Some how when he teleported out he managed to take his things as well. So here we took on all these things and we did not get any treasure. And unlike Shadowrun treasure is important.

 

[Ed_Laprade]

What you really did wrong was not slitting the guy's throat, dragging him down to the sewer, snd chopping bits and pieces of him off as you went along for the (regular) rats to munch on.

 

[Hypersmurf]

We took his magic items and his belt pouch they were in a backpack. Some how when he teleported out he managed to take his things as well.

Well, when was the last time you met a wizard with a maxed Escape Artist who didn't also have lots of Sleight of Hand ranks?

-Hyp.

 

[Elf Witch]

What you really did wrong was not slitting the guy's throat, dragging him down to the sewer, snd chopping bits and pieces of him off as you went along for the (regular) rats to munch on.

My roommate who is also in the game and I were talking about this today and we have made a decision that from now on any mage gets it no surrender no second chances he gets his throat slit.

And if the Dm ask us why we are going to point out that our characters are not stupid and we have learned the hard way that mages are to dangerous to try and take prsioner.

 

[Elf Witch]

Well, when was the last time you met a wizard with a maxed Escape Artist who didn't also have lots of Sleight of Hand ranks?

-Hyp.

Yeah we should have guessed it because every belt pouch we have come across is trapped with all kinds of nasty triggers.

Its a wonder that more NPCs don't kill themselves by accident going into their money pouches.

 

[TheEvil]

I haven't been in game with that many GM fiats since high school. It left a sour taste in my mouth then, it still does now. What you did was a natural reaction, though as you discovered, it doesn't make the game any more fun. Just shows how much good GMing can depend on the system. Of course, in Shadowrun, things are SUPPOSED to be stacked against the players, so it is very possible he is bringing what I consider the wrong mindset to the game. I have run into a bit of that myself, though not to that degree.

 

[Mark CMG]

If you feel guilty enough to post here, you won't feel good playing with that group again until you admit it to them and accept the consequences. The sooner you admit it, the sooner you can move on. The longer you wait, the more it will gnaw at you. If you've enjoyed playing with that group up until now, you may wish to handle this before it becomes a bigger deal than it needs to be.

 

[Elf Witch]

I haven't been in game with that many GM fiats since high school. It left a sour taste in my mouth then, it still does now. What you did was a natural reaction, though as you discovered, it doesn't make the game any more fun. Just shows how much good GMing can depend on the system. Of course, in Shadowrun, things are SUPPOSED to be stacked against the players, so it is very possible he is bringing what I consider the wrong mindset to the game. I have run into a bit of that myself, though not to that degree.

Yes Shadowrun is a much more stacked against the PCs than DnD combat is deadlier and death is for keeps. Yet we have never lost a PC "yet "in Shadowrun and it never feels as if he is bending the rules and giving the NPCs an unfair advantage.