I found my D&D passion again. 1E basic: White Plume Mountain
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ColonelHardisson
What? Me Worry?
Dr Midnight said:
Hey, it's great you're having fun, but as a veteran of 1e, I can tell you that even if there weren't rules for everything (and there aren't in 3e, either, really), we had rules for everything back then. We made 'em up on the fly, which often meant a lot of inconsistency, and usually slowed the game down as much as book-flipping as we debated. At least 3e has some basic, consistent guidelines - roll a d20, add the relevant mods, beat a target number. It helps the DM do things on the fly a lot faster and smoother, and with fewer arguments, than in the past. And believe me, there is more roleplaying now than then.
That doesn't mean 1e is crap. Just that 3e isn't, either.
Dang it, Doc. Your timing is impeccable.
I am running my group through a campaign that has its origins in 1st ed. and has been updated to 3rd. The last couple of outings have seemed flat, to the point where I have really not wanted to play. You have to understand, this is my baby. I have put more blood sweat and tears into this than any other campaign I have ever done. And to see the lack-lust playing and general flat nature of our games is killing me.
Joshua, I want to agree with you and for the most part I do. But I, and I think Doc too, hold alot of emotion surrounding the game and when it looses some of that "fun", it effects me on an emotional level. More than I care to admit. I too long for the excitement and anticipation that came with gaming in the early days. I fear that I have lost some of that. I want it back.
I will say this, thanks to you Doc, I plan on bring fun back to my games. I don't know how exactly. At my old age change is hard but I'm going to try.
Colonel, boy are you not-a-kiddin'. Holy cow man, I have pages and pages of "house rules" for 1st ed. 3rd ed. is a blessing.
I am running my group through a campaign that has its origins in 1st ed. and has been updated to 3rd. The last couple of outings have seemed flat, to the point where I have really not wanted to play. You have to understand, this is my baby. I have put more blood sweat and tears into this than any other campaign I have ever done. And to see the lack-lust playing and general flat nature of our games is killing me.
Joshua, I want to agree with you and for the most part I do. But I, and I think Doc too, hold alot of emotion surrounding the game and when it looses some of that "fun", it effects me on an emotional level. More than I care to admit. I too long for the excitement and anticipation that came with gaming in the early days. I fear that I have lost some of that. I want it back.
I will say this, thanks to you Doc, I plan on bring fun back to my games. I don't know how exactly. At my old age change is hard but I'm going to try.
Colonel, boy are you not-a-kiddin'. Holy cow man, I have pages and pages of "house rules" for 1st ed. 3rd ed. is a blessing.
You know, we didn't switch systems or anything, but our group had a similar experience recently. We had a total of three campaigns going, all of which were rather advanced roleplay wise.
- My Ravenloft campaign, where the heros were in the high tech realm of Dementlieu, where they hunted foul beings for the church of Ezra. Along with a mysterious paladin that appeared from the mists, whom the group's cleric thought might be a return of his goddess. THink equal parts Buffy, John Carpenter's Vampires, and Sherlock Holmes.
- A villainous campaign, with a group of scheming manipulating backstabbers.
- A game with an epic storyline and detailed character backgrounds all around.
Well, one day about half our group couldn't make it. So we decided to play with what we had, I'd grab a module, and we'd just do a one shot. I picked up the Sunless CItadel, and we had a blast. No background, no story really, only the barest of hooks. Had an absolute blast. After that, I suggested doing Monte's Meatgrinder. Everyone likes it, and we have started doing that as well.
Sometimes, you just need to do like the original 3e ad said, and get back to the dungeon.
- My Ravenloft campaign, where the heros were in the high tech realm of Dementlieu, where they hunted foul beings for the church of Ezra. Along with a mysterious paladin that appeared from the mists, whom the group's cleric thought might be a return of his goddess. THink equal parts Buffy, John Carpenter's Vampires, and Sherlock Holmes.
- A villainous campaign, with a group of scheming manipulating backstabbers.
- A game with an epic storyline and detailed character backgrounds all around.
Well, one day about half our group couldn't make it. So we decided to play with what we had, I'd grab a module, and we'd just do a one shot. I picked up the Sunless CItadel, and we had a blast. No background, no story really, only the barest of hooks. Had an absolute blast. After that, I suggested doing Monte's Meatgrinder. Everyone likes it, and we have started doing that as well.
Sometimes, you just need to do like the original 3e ad said, and get back to the dungeon.
A Ramble
I get a great nostalgic feeling every time I look through my 1st edition books too... a couple members of my group are thinking of starting a new 1st edition only group. 3rd edition is fine and I agree with the previous posts that the rules are much simpler and more free flowing. However, 1st edition had that forbidden and gritty feel to it. Back then role-playing most definitely was NOT in main stream society. I'm suprised that my mother didn't have a problem with me playing it since D&D and Heavy Metal music drove people to use drugs and embrace satan (I'm being sarcastic). I actually prefer the old black and white artwork to the new professionaly drawn 3E stuff. People who got into the game in 2nd or 3rd edition are probably the ones who don't identify much with what I am writing but for all of you who remember the one-dimensional characters, Mountain Dew, whole pizzas per player, and the rest... well, you know what I am talking about.
Okay... I'll stop rambling.
I get a great nostalgic feeling every time I look through my 1st edition books too... a couple members of my group are thinking of starting a new 1st edition only group. 3rd edition is fine and I agree with the previous posts that the rules are much simpler and more free flowing. However, 1st edition had that forbidden and gritty feel to it. Back then role-playing most definitely was NOT in main stream society. I'm suprised that my mother didn't have a problem with me playing it since D&D and Heavy Metal music drove people to use drugs and embrace satan (I'm being sarcastic). I actually prefer the old black and white artwork to the new professionaly drawn 3E stuff. People who got into the game in 2nd or 3rd edition are probably the ones who don't identify much with what I am writing but for all of you who remember the one-dimensional characters, Mountain Dew, whole pizzas per player, and the rest... well, you know what I am talking about.
Okay... I'll stop rambling.
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