I found something Core that doesn't fit in Eberron!

[John Q. Mayhem]

The Gith races almost certainly don't fit in Eberron. With the limited planes and no real provision for an ancient illithid empire, the Githyanki and Githzerai as presented do not fit. Is this so? Am I wrong?

Note: I am not taking glee in something being wrong in Eberron. I bought Eberron and liked it, this is just something I noticed.

 

[Snoweel]

And if the Gith were present, I'm sure there should be a lot more of them...

 

[BrooklynKnight]

Of course the gith fit into eberron. They can be from Xoriat, or still from the Astral Plane.

Remember in eberron all races have a new twist to them. Look at elves with their focus on necromancy and gnomes with their focus on...well, not illusions thats for sure.

Illithids were creations of the Daelkyrs and Gith and Githzaraei could be too.
One could be free and the other still enslaved.

 

[Nightingale 7]

Actually,Githzerai DO exist in Kythri(look at page 96) which makes sense,since it is a plane very similar to Limbo.Curiously,there is no mention of Githyanki.I believe they would fit pretty well in Shavarrath,what with their military upbringing.They could hire on as mercenaries to all three armies,training vigorously to be ready to attack their hated...err,now that begs a question.Is the whole Githyanki-Githzerai-Illithid relationship different in Eberron?
They could also be military units that the Quori want to use against the Kalashtar.
In the end I don't think there is no place for them in Eberron.Sorry JohnQ.Mayhem

 

[Caliban]

The Gith races almost certainly don't fit in Eberron. With the limited planes and no real provision for an ancient illithid empire, the Githyanki and Githzerai as presented do not fit. Is this so? Am I wrong?

Note: I am not taking glee in something being wrong in Eberron. I bought Eberron and liked it, this is just something I noticed.

Eberron Campaign Setting (ECS), page 96, Kythri, the Churning Chaos. Kythri Inhabitants: ... Githzerai...

Presumably the Githyanki still reside in the Astral Plane.

Their history is probably a bit different, since mind flayers were created in Khyber and don't seem to have had the plane spaning empire they used to have in regular D&D.

 

[Ycore Rixle]

And if the Gith were present, I'm sure there should be a lot more of them...

Excellent point. But if you integrate the population density of 14th-century Europe over the volume of the land mass of Kythri using some simple Fourier transforms to model Kythrian mass-energy conversions and cacophony storms in place of El Nino then I think you'll see the Githzerai numbers are really about the same as the Tasmanian tiger is relative to the Australian landmass, ignoring random Hobart effects and DNA replication.

 

[Emirikol]

Excellent point. But if you integrate the population density of 14th-century Europe over the volume of the land mass of Kythri using some simple Fourier transforms to model Kythrian mass-energy conversions and cacophony storms in place of El Nino then I think you'll see the Githzerai numbers are really about the same as the Tasmanian tiger is relative to the Australian landmass, ignoring random Hobart effects and DNA replication.

Ha ha ha ha!

Don't forget that the Gith , based upon the technological advances of the 14th century empires of the isles about 2 miles off the coast of eastern asia, would have advanced to the obvious usage of acupuncture-needle-like projectiles ejected from tube-like devices with explosions of chemicals including Saltpetre 74.64%, Sulphur 11.85%, Charcoal 13.51% which would have quickly made short work of their Illithid former masters, making it sheerly impossible that they could have ever been enslaved by primordial psionic octapi in the first place. Hence, Gith, never existed, even in AD&D. ...wait, lemme check my math...Yup.

I never liked the concept of servitor races ever escaping their masters anyways..but I play in Hyboria..where you have to worry about things like spelling errors in the name of Connannn.

Just pokin' fun.

jh


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[reanjr]

Curiously,there is no mention of Githyanki.I believe they would fit pretty well in Shavarrath,what with their military upbringing.

Do you have any reason for not putting the Githyanki on the Astral where they live in standard D&D (the Astral exists in Eberron, too)?

 

[Ycore Rixle]

Ha ha ha ha!

Don't forget that the Gith , based upon the technological advances of the 14th century empires of the isles about 2 miles off the coast of eastern asia, would have advanced to the obvious usage of acupuncture-needle-like projectiles ejected from tube-like devices with explosions of chemicals including Saltpetre 74.64%, Sulphur 11.85%, Charcoal 13.51% which would have quickly made short work of their Illithid former masters, making it sheerly impossible that they could have ever been enslaved by primordial psionic octapi in the first place.
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True, very true.

All kidding aside, I do love Eberron. Great setting and kudos to Keith and the team.

I really wish my gaming group out here were in position to start another campaign. I guess I will have to wait for Gen Con and the D&D Open (Shards of Eberron) to play my first Eberron game.

 

[~Johnny~]

Here's what Keith had to say:

The Githyanki are located in the astral plane, the Githzerai are in Kythri. If you ask me -- because it hasn't been set in stone yet -- I would say that they are descended from the survivors of a world destroyed by Xoriat.