I have a problem with monks and halflings

[Klaus]

If you haven't, watch Kung Fu Panda. Pay particular attention to Master Shifu.

The halfling will make a lot more sense.

:win:

 

[Spatula]

The comparisons to human children are a little off-base IMO, without even getting into any potential physiology differences between humans and halflings: the child's body & mind aren't fully developed. An adult halfling may be about the same size, but is much stronger and faster than the child (with better reflexes than the average human), and has the benefit of training and experience.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Power come from mass. Not from little man with muscles. If he not have mass, he not have power.

Force = Mass x Acceleration

You can generate a lot of force with small mass if its acceleration is high enough. Bullets are designed this way- small and light, but with high velocities...and some of the smallest rounds are among the most dangerous.

I see story. Chimp strong. But not punch. It scrape. It bite. It not punch for the boxing. Chimp is good for wrestle.

A monk's unarmed strike isn't just a punch, it is an abstraction of all kinds of various unarmed attacks a monk might make- punches, kicks, gouges, bites, rakes, joint locks, breaks, chokes, throws and so forth.

IOW, that halfling monk isn't just punching.

In addition, I've watched a lot of martial arts masters practicing their art. There was one featured in a documentary- kind of a "tour" of the world's martial arts. Of particular relevance to this thread, this small (5'1" max) old (early 70's) Vietnamese Master of some obscure martial art may have weighed 130lbs, but generated about 45% more force with his strikes than an untrained but healthy man 1/3 his age and at least 45 pounds heavier.

The difference? 40 years of training- learning how to strike, building up the density of his bones by doing repeated strikes to unyielding objects and the like.

 

[WayneLigon]

[D&D3]So I'm asking for help here. I need some hand holds on this wall for my imagination to climb it. How do you see a halfling monk dealing damage to -- and killing -- big monsters? And how do you keep in mind that Joe the linebacker sitting beside you at the table is playing a 3'-tall, 30# halfling?

"Judge me by my size, do you...?"

The same way I see a human monk hitting and damaging things like dragons, gorgons, golems, shield guardians, etc: knowledge and use of pressure points, weak spots, and leverage combined with the 'magic' of Chi gates and energy flows. If you watch some of the wilder wuxia stuff, you see a lot of this kind of stuff.

Most of these fanciful martial artists are not concentrating so much on actual physical damage: through combinations of strikes at key points, they're trying to close and open the chi energy gates throughout the body that really control health. That's why you'll see them block boulders or walk on leaves and water, but go down when someone hits them with certain combinations.

The Master of Peach Blossom Island fights Fate Witch
Yes, she kills one guy with a horsehair whisk, just by snapping it so hard the hairs become like needles.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQB5IDyS9gY]YouTube - Return of Condor Heroes 2006 Ep 1.3[/ame]

Chi Mastery

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNwVkBP68Qw]YouTube - Roch ep 4 part 3/5[/ame]

 

[El Mahdi]

Force = Mass x Acceleration....

I wouldn't even bother Danny. PirateCat revealed Murad as a troll alt of ProfessorPain yesterday and banned him. It's really not worth the trouble of arguing with him. I think he was just saying stuff on purpose to get arguments going. I have to admit I got sucked in myself.


Post quoted below where he's outed:

...EDIT: And hey, everybody! Please greet the member "ProfessorPain," who apparently thinks he can hide behind a second account so that he can troll. Yeah... not so much.

Thread where he's banned here.