I hope for another multiclass feat for monks

[cignus_pfaccari]

The one thing I'd note is that the multiclass feats typically give a once/encounter ability and a skill proficiency*. So getting the superior Unarmed Strike is probably a bit much.

* - Which is why if you want just a skill, see what multiclass feats you can pick up, they may wind up being useful.

On the other hand, it probably wouldn't hurt to have a feat to grant proficiency with Unarmed Strike. Heck, it's not even really a superior weapon, since it's +3/d8/Off-hand, so it's roughly equivalent to a longsword.

Brad

 

[oakbriar]

Good enough!? Heck, it's better. Maybe I have cursed dice, but in 3e we called if Flurry of Misses. At least now, if you hit, you hit again.

Back in 3.5 when I played a monk the first few levels were in a big tournament and i failed EVERY monk-themed event (though i did beat the ranger at archery and the fighter at a feat of strength).

But not to totally diss the 3.5 monk. I did manage to spot a pair of bugbears in the distance (Spot) and stay out of sight (Hide) while climbing up a tree (Climb), run across the branches (Balance, Move Silent and Jump checks) then leap at them from above, grappling one of them, delivering a coup de grace, and then taking out the other one (while the rest of my party was getting drunk at the tavern!). I think my DM took some liberties with the checks for my benefit, seeing that I was on the verge of pulling off the best move we've ever seen at our gaming table.

But I digress....

 

[UngeheuerLich]

i would have liked to see sucha feat. It is a nice weapon, but only equivalent to a long sword. Maybe remove offhand for multiclass purposes.

 

[Mort_Q]

You can't enchant unarmed strikes it in 4e... no worries.

 

[MrMyth]

I was really hoping there would be a monk feat like this, myself. It just seems to open up more character concepts (namely, the Martial martial artist) than the existing spiritual/ki/psychic monk. You can't even easily get unarmed strike via hybrid monk, from what I recall, which is certainly a shame.

I don't think there would be any extreme power imbalance issues with it. If they felt it was too strong for a base MC feat, I could see it as a secondary MC feat, like some of the ones offered in Primal Power.

But I definitely agree that it would be nice to see the option somewhere.

 

[Insight]

Someone should point out to the OP that "Monk Unarmed Strike" is a weapon. And because it's a weapon, read the top of p. 64 in PHB3:

You can also use a weapon with which you have proficiency as an implement.

So "Monk Unarmed Strike" is a valid implement for all Monk powers (and I believe every Monk attack power has this).

Otherwise, it would be really, really dumb.

 

[Mort_Q]

Someone should point out to the OP that "Monk Unarmed Strike" is a weapon. And because it's a weapon... "Monk Unarmed Strike" is a valid implement for all Monk powers (and I believe every Monk attack power has this).

Perhaps I'm being thick... well no... not perhaps... regardless...

What's the point of pointing this out?

 

[DracoSuave]

A Paragon Hybrid Fighter/Monk could use Brawling Style with the monk's Unarmed Combat to get +4 proficiency, and then +6 proficiency with the unarmed strike.

Hmmm...

 

[UngeheuerLich]

not so terrible when you consider the usual 1d6 damage the unarmed strike does. More problematic are ki foci which can be used even with only the PHB3 multiclass feat. I don´t believe it was a good idea to have a +6 proficiency bonus on unarmed strike. it should rather give an enhancement bonus... same effect...

 

[bganon]

Actually, do you need Unarmed Combat in the hybrid Fighter/Monk case? Just take Brawler style for the +2/+4/+6 prof bonus to unarmed strike, and since you're a hybrid you can use ki foci and add the enhancement bonus to weapon attacks with weapons you're proficient with.

What I'm not sure about is whether the brawler fighter is technically "proficient" with unarmed strike. It's an improvised weapon in the PHB, listed separately from the simple/military categories, and while brawlers get a proficiency bonus the class feature never specifically grants proficiency.