I think better out loud -- a multi-stage climactic combat

End of the world. World crumbling.

Want to get to fallen moon. Just before they get there, cracks apart, must cross somehow. Dragon might come help, some roleplay. Monster on its way.

How does monster fight? Disjunction beam. Can eat PCs. But shouldn't right away. Let's raise the bar.

Figure out its pattern. It doesn't just chew hit points. It has to be hurt X amount in lifebar 1 before lifebar 2 is available. For this, what can trigger that? Turns from black beast to red beast, exposing its true form.

Swipe a foe, create antimatter copy. Now it's party vs. one evil clone, but still a danger. PC gets negative level. PCs hate negative levels. They take them very seriously.

If it gets hit with more than X amount of spell power, it triggers its disjunction beam. But that strips away its physical body for Y rounds. Ooh, good.

The red body is smaller, slower, exhausted from the blast. It has to land on a floating island. You've got two rounds. It gets hurt, next action is to the land. Next action is regaining body, island crumbling away. Third action it's back to fighting, as the island shatters.

Because magic is life, and life is its antithesis. If it gets too much life, it must expunge it. So disjunction plus damage.

What can fighters and rogues do to make it trigger its weakness? Really, hitting it should destroy your weapons. Mages weaken it and open it up, warriors chop it up? Hm. But it's got flesh in the air, not on the ground? But I want warriors to chop it up.

Maybe its body is made of matter it destroys, which protects the soft squishy middle. So anyone can hit the middle. Sure, that makes sense.

Claws and teeth are biggest threat. Beam can't hit near rock. Vesican layout of earth to moon. Ooh, music from The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is playing. I like.

Make it so 3 rounds to knock down barrier. 20 spell levels? Too fast, you can do that in 1 round with two casters and quickened. Make it 30 spell levels, so that's at least 2 rounds, positive energy should count too. Equal to spell of 1/2 highest HD that would be affected.

OK, so...

Stage 1 - run to moon, talk

Stage 2 - moon breaks away, dragon, cross over, monster swoops by with slashing tail, grapple with tail, bite? It doesn't like the moon rocks, and there are places to hide. Its normal beam doesn't reach the rock, so staying close you're safe, but it can shatter with roar? Don't go into the air with it, or it'll screw you up. Establish early that it doesn't like the rocks, so they'll know not to go up.

Stage 3 - once you reach moon, battle continues. Here it strafes with claws and tail, and if monster is hurt it lands, then shatters ground into many pieces.

Stage 4 - now we fly around shattered floating islands, and it needs a new development to its attacks. Ground is unstable, but flying is dangerous, because he can shoot lesser beam and dispel it, and you fall to your death. Or maybe it just suppresses Flight's boon, not removes it. Good. Eventually it gets knocked down in hp, and now it begins to burn through its body, making it more dangerous, but more vulnerable at all times

Stage 5 - climax. Still floating islands, but now it can smash them together, or grab them and hurl them.

So . . .

Disjunction beam once it takes 30 spell levels, but then it is exposed and weak.

Claws create clone. Tail dispels, grapples, and can pull up to mouth for bite. Bite just does a hell of a lot of damage.

Can hurl objects like Vorax-Hul, but only later.

Roar shakes land, does damage.

Needs wingover, but not hover. Hover's boring. Monster won't go near moon rocks. How to show that? Or is that even a good idea?

Vanishes when it dies, and then a nice fiat lux. Sounds fair enough.

The key should do something to it. Or does it just let you get out?
 

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Well, I am working on a D&D supplement at 3:30 in the morning, so clearly I'm not in my right head. But for some reason the black background of EN World helps me focus better than MS Word. Basically, I'm just brainstorming.
 

RangerWickett said:
Well, I am working on a D&D supplement at 3:30 in the morning, so clearly I'm not in my right head. But for some reason the black background of EN World helps me focus better than MS Word. Basically, I'm just brainstorming.
Keep a notepad by the bed. It certainly helps me.
 

nick012000 said:
Are you drunk? Maybe you should try again when you can post something a little more coherent.
Rather a mindflow process I think. Some of us have a tendency to write down our thoughts as they come and then organise them later. Just as the title says, thinking out loud (this time in written form). The idea is to be "uncoherent" actually (is that even a word?).

EDIT: My flurry of fingers is too slow it seems
 

RangerWickett said:
Well, I am working on a D&D supplement at 3:30 in the morning, so clearly I'm not in my right head. But for some reason the black background of EN World helps me focus better than MS Word. Basically, I'm just brainstorming.
Your ideas fascinate me. Apparently this is VERY high level epic stuff.
 

RangerWickett said:
Well, I am working on a D&D supplement at 3:30 in the morning, so clearly I'm not in my right head. But for some reason the black background of EN World helps me focus better than MS Word. Basically, I'm just brainstorming.

That would explain it. Sleep deprivation produces similar effects to intoxication.
 

RangerWickett said:
Well, I am working on a D&D supplement at 3:30 in the morning, so clearly I'm not in my right head. But for some reason the black background of EN World helps me focus better than MS Word. Basically, I'm just brainstorming.
For me, I'm so used to formatting text on here, it's the easiest way for me to organize my thoughts.
 

So the monster is some sort of giant anti-werewolf thing? (Weakness to life/positive energy opposes regeneration, hating the moon opposes the lunatic cycle)
 

Sounds fun. :)

These aren't the same as your notes, but here are some stray ideas:

1. The core creature can shape an outer body of any substance (such as moon rock). However, this ability is unstable. If the core creature is subjected to a constant barrage of magic, it loses control and the outer body explodes outward, doing damage to any in a certain radius (similar to death throes - see frost worm).

The loss of its outer body can be caused by a certain amount of power (your 30 levels), or simply a certain amount of time. Roll 1d4+1. That's the number of rounds the creature must be subjected to some magic effect to cause the outer body to explode. That averages to 3.5 rounds. The level of magic doesn't matter, and the time required is somewhat random. If the creature goes an entire round without a magical effect, the countdown clock resets (reroll 1d4+1).

2. While surrounded by the outer body, the creature is immune to physical damage - only magic affects it, and only to cause the outer body to explode away. The core body, however, is immune to all magic, subject only to physical attacks.

3. Rather than a disjunction effect, consider giving it one attack when it has its outer body. If the attack lands, antimatter copy (ala mirror of opposition) appears and attacks party. Character that is copied takes 10% damage to base hit points (in other words, if character has 120 hit points, he takes 12 damage). These hit points may not be healed in way, until the copy is destroyed.

This seems simpler than messing around with negative levels and still has a continuing effect to creep out the party ("At the beast's touch, you feel a piece of your soul being ripped from you...")

4. If the outer body is destroyed, the creature will do nothing except land and form a new outer body. Doing so takes one (?) full round action, during which it is considered to be flat-footed (yeah rogues!). Damage to its inner form takes a long time to heal (days), but if you give it enough hit points, the party will have to destroy the outer form more than once to take it out completely.

5. Not sure what you mean about a "key", but maybe it allows its owner to create a magic effect on the outer form (or if used against the outer form, subtracts one from the countdown to explosion...)

Feel free to ignore any and all of this if it doesn't fit your concept.
 
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