I want some opinions... (gaming topic)

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Imo it's not a good idea to go online, calling your friend a liar. That can't help matters.

My "friend" is a liar, but I am not the one who made themselves known, he decided to do this. I "protected the involved parties" as is expected for thread topics of this nature. So don't go painting me in a light I do not deserve. I followed the proper rules for threads like this.
 

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My "friend" is a liar, but I am not the one who made themselves known, he decided to do this. I "protected the involved parties" as is expected for thread topics of this nature. So don't go painting me in a light I do not deserve. I followed the proper rules for threads like this.

We don't have any unbiased criteria upon which to judge your assertion. What we can see is that you've posted this problem of yours on several different boards for some personal reason even though it sounds like the group has pretty much resolved the issue (and is even playing the game this "liar" friend of your suggested). You've rebuffed the attempt posted by your "liar" friend to reconcile and looked pretty small in doing so.

So what light do you think you deserve? Put yourself in our shoes. From our perspective, the light you've put yourself in isn't very flattering. I'd stop now if I were you.
 
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My "friend" is a liar, but I am not the one who made themselves known, he decided to do this. I "protected the involved parties" as is expected for thread topics of this nature. So don't go painting me in a light I do not deserve. I followed the proper rules for threads like this.

He didn't really make himself known anymore then you did. It's not like we know the guy personally and you were keeping his name out of it. You called him a liar in the first post and it doesn't matter that he posted in the thread or not. There really aren't special rules for these types of threads either the rules of the boards apply to all threads and topics equally.
 

From my perspective its about truth and integrity. Which one thing these threads have shown me, mean pretty much nothing to many people.

Whoa there Tex, no need to start casting aspersions at those that disagree with you (although, to be frank, you started with these comments some time back). You might consider that truth and integrity mean plenty to many of these people you're referring to, but that their perspective on the situation is far different than yours. In fact, the sheer number of people that seem to view this in a different perspective might encourage you to try to step back, take a deep breath and look at the situation from another angle yourself.

Plus remember, like the many threads about "game problems" that came before this, I didn't name names, I didn't "out" anyone, and I certainly did not lie to anyone about anything.

Well, at least on one site, it was clear who you were talking about to at least several posters. But that's not the point. There's no reason you shouldn't have posted this thread and named names; but you should have talked to "Other DM" first. It's clear from his posts that there was miscommunication of some degree, even if just about what his intentions were. The whole issue here of COMMUNICATION, imho, trumps concerns about honesty- because if you can't agree on what the discussion is about, how can you be honest?

My "friend" is a liar, but I am not the one who made themselves known, he decided to do this. I "protected the involved parties" as is expected for thread topics of this nature. So don't go painting me in a light I do not deserve. I followed the proper rules for threads like this.

I'm not sure what "rules" you're talking about. Surely not rules of etiquette, because if you wanted to be polite, courteous or respectful, you would have talked to New DM first. And Doug wasn't painting you in any light, just pointing out that calling your friend a liar all over the Internet is only exacerbating the problem. I imagine that you can see that he is correct if you just step back and think about it, instead of saying it again in response.

Seriously, dude, if you want to stay friends with New DM you need to chill out. He's probably pretty upset and angry at this by now, what with you continuing to call him a liar despite his (very civil imho) attempts to explain his side of the story and his very public apologies. What exactly do you want from him? Surely at this point you know better than to ask him to step up and continue your campaign; so what are you trying to achieve? Because it looks to me like you're going to destroy your friendship and maybe shatter your gaming group by making all these waves.
 

From my perspective its about truth and integrity.
Unless I'm missing something, this kerfuffle has nothing to do with truth or integrity.

Let's say my friends and I agree to meet at Bar A. Not an uncommon occurrence, seeing as the lot of us drink.

Let's say we're now standing in front of Bar A. One of them says "Let's go to Bar B instead, I hear they have a cute bartender. What do you say?"

Let's say we proceed to vote, and Bar B is selected.

Did anyone lie? Has anyone --yet-- acted like a person of base character?

Now, let's say I get a little miffed by this development. Understandable, really, people like to get their way. Something to do with the Will to Power, I suppose. But let's call a spade a spade. I wouldn't be miffed because my friend who made the suggestion has lied. Or because he's a bad person. I'd be mad because I didn't approve of the change in plans and I like to get my own way.

Of course, I wouldn't get be miffed if I got out-voted. Mainly because I'm really out for the good company. The choice of bars is irrelevant -- though a cute bartender is always a plus, no?
 

Because it looks to me like you're going to destroy your friendship and maybe shatter your gaming group by making all these waves.
Could we take it as read that the friendship died a horrible death, if not when the 'is a liar' accusation came up all over the intraweb, then most definitely when people started being referred to as "friend" complete with melodramatic quotation marks.

Oh, the tragedy. Wont somebody think of the children please?
 

I'm closing this one down. Given that it's redundant in that it's been crossposted on various other forums, and that it's pretty much turning into an argument, I can't see that it serves a function.
 

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