I was "booed" for even showing the 4e Core books

[Achan hiArusa]

I'll just note that I own both Synnibarr and 4e. Does this mean I win the thread?

I have a copy of Powers & Perils, too (along with an adventure module and the Perilous Lands setting), and it actually seems far more playable than Synnibarr.

-O

I just have Perilous Lands. Found it in a hobby shop in Fayetteville, AR.

 

[GoodKingJayIII]

Seriously, people are allowed to vocally dislike things.

Of course, but it's not necessary to be rude about it. Whether that's what happened in this instance, I don't know. I wasn't there.

 

[PaulofCthulhu]

Does anyone know how long a new edition takes to bed down with the general gaming population? We've also got people who will & will not play 4e, there is talk of Pathfinder.

How long did it take for 3e to be the accepted norm over 2e for the majority?

 

[GravyFingerz]

Gah... You have clinched it for me. I can not continue reading this thread. Ya jerk.

...totally kidding.

I'm actually kind of flattered, and will take this as a compliment, even if you are just kidding.

And while I'm at it, I'll also accept a "you're an awesome guy" and "you're totally funny" and "kinda attractive", even though you didn't say those things. That's just the kind of guy I am.

 

[Scribble]

I'm actually kind of flattered, and will take this as a compliment, even if you are just kidding.

And while I'm at it, I'll also accept a "you're an awesome guy" and "you're totally funny" and "kinda attractive", even though you didn't say those things. That's just the kind of guy I am.

The kind that hears voices?

 

[Howndawg]

Does anyone know how long a new edition takes to bed down with the general gaming population? We've also got people who will & will not play 4e, there is talk of Pathfinder.

How long did it take for 3e to be the accepted norm over 2e for the majority?

2e was out for 11 years when 3e came out. A good many gamers were going through 2e burnout when 3e came out and were ready for a change.

4e came out 8 years after 3e. A higher number of gamers have NOT burned out on 3e. Thus they see 4e's release as premature and react accordingly.

 

[GravyFingerz]

The kind that hears voices?

Who said that?

(not to get off topic or anything like that; that'd be shameful)

 

[GravyFingerz]

2e was out for 11 years when 3e came out. A good many gamers were going through 2e burnout when 3e came out and were ready for a change.

4e came out 8 years after 3e. A higher number of gamers have NOT burned out on 3e. Thus they see 4e's release as premature and react accordingly.

When 3e had come out, I had not burned out on 2e, but welcomed the new edition. I burnt out on 3rd edition shortly after 3.5 came out, about 5 years in. I started looking into alternate d20 games, like Iron Heroes and Slaine. I just didn't agree with 3e's core philosophies (especially about wealth and magic items).

 

[Diamondeye]

I haven't encountered that reaction to the new edition. Mostly what I have noticed is that people who don't care for the new edition essentially being told that they don't like it for some irrational reason, or if they give some more concrete reason, someone tries to convince them its groundless. Essentially, there's a small subset of 4E adherents that can't admit it has any shortcomings compared to 3.X, and these folks, being the vocal sorts, tend to aggrevate people who prefer 3.5, who then project their dislike of the antagonist onto 4E.

Not to imply there are no 3.5 people with irrational dislikes of 4E, but I haven't actually encountered any.

 

[Desdichado]

Has anybody else encounter such an attitude toward 4e?

No offense, but that seems like an odd question to ask when that attitude is a prevalent, vocal minority right here at ENWorld.

Other than that, yeah, pretty much. My group was annoyed at the release of 4e (the timing of it, I should say) and has no intention whatsoever of switching. Not terribly thrilled with the rules either; they lost as much 3.5 good as they fixed 3.5 bad.

For that matter, half of us are still ticked off at the 3e => 3.5 updgrade, to be honest with you.