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5E Icewind Dale Preview: The Panopticon

A tidbit from the upcoming book from Chris Perkins -- "The Panopticon of Revel’s End, where the Lords’ Alliance keeps its most dangerous criminals. More info on this maximum security prison can be found in Icewind Dale: Rime of the Frostmaiden."

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MarkB

Legend
If nothing else... A prison like this would be a "great" place to be locked inside with, say, a mysterious eldritch body-horror shapeshifter...
I'm eager to find out how the PCs become trapped there. Just passing through, making a delivery, or are they themselves inmates?
 

Unless the prisoners' cells are in the outer wall (in which case, they won't be prisoners for long when they freeze to death), yeah. I would assume that either it's set up inside the tower or they just liked the sound of the word.

The illustration sure doesn't look like a panopticon design, does it? But I suppose we need to wait for the plans to be sure.
 



The close-up provides a lot more detail, and a bit of a cutaway. I hadn't noticed that the prison effectively extends through the base of the outcrop.
It was harder to see because the picture in the OP is slightly different. The cliff is coming further into the sea in the OP pic
 


MarkB

Legend
It was harder to see because the picture in the OP is slightly different. The cliff is coming further into the sea in the OP pic
Yeah, I'm not sure if that's different versions, or if it's effectively cut away in the closer picture in order to provide a better view.
 

Yeah, I'm not sure if that's different versions, or if it's effectively cut away in the closer picture in order to provide a better view.
The cutaway looks like a preliminary version or colour rendering sketch. The second is almost identical to the (finished?) version of the OP, with a slightly shorter cliff.
 

Gradine

Final Form
I mean, the actual point of a Panopticon is psychological in nature; I'm not sure how it would apply in principle to creatures that lack human-like or even any psychology

e: misread the tweet
 


Yenrak

Explorer
The "God Trap" in Greyhawk Castle—the prison where Zagig locked up nine demigods—was a kind of Panopticon. According to the tales, Robilar, with Riggby and his orc henchman Quij, freed Iuz. A very similar story is told in Temple of Elemental Evil, although in that version Robliar accidentally releases Iuz (or maybe Zuggtmoy, I forget which) from the Temple. Maybe Robliar did both.
 

Rhineglade

Explorer
OK so I was chatting with some players on Roll20 about this next campaign. We were all talking about the rumors and whispers that have come out so far. One of the players suddenly had a brilliant thought! She mentioned what if Icewind Dale becomes isolated from the rest of the world as another Demiplane of Dread, similar to Barovia? This would indeed explain the fear and isolation aspect. Auril would basically be this plane's Dreadlord. I think that idea is a distinct possibility.
 

Marandahir

Crown-Forester
Totally. Icewind Dale, the winter is coming.
Everything I've heard and seen of this AP feels like they took the best bits of the North lands and the Lands Beyond the Wall from GoT/ASoIaF and ran with it.

The show was a major disappointment in its ending but that doesn't mean it didn't have killer visual and narrative concepts to draw on over the course of 8 seasons (and the sourcebooks are great to mine for ideas too!).
 

Mercador

Explorer
Everything I've heard and seen of this AP feels like they took the best bits of the North lands and the Lands Beyond the Wall from GoT/ASoIaF and ran with it.

The show was a major disappointment in its ending but that doesn't mean it didn't have killer visual and narrative concepts to draw on over the course of 8 seasons (and the sourcebooks are great to mine for ideas too!).
Yeah, it's kinda sad that people will remember only the season 8. The books were great even if incompleted.
 

Reynard

Legend
Everything I've heard and seen of this AP feels like they took the best bits of the North lands and the Lands Beyond the Wall from GoT/ASoIaF and ran with it.

The show was a major disappointment in its ending but that doesn't mean it didn't have killer visual and narrative concepts to draw on over the course of 8 seasons (and the sourcebooks are great to mine for ideas too!).
Icewind Dale and the Savage Frontier are older than Game of Thrones. Scary Icy Northiness in fantasy is far older still.
 

Marandahir

Crown-Forester
Icewind Dale and the Savage Frontier are older than Game of Thrones. Scary Icy Northiness in fantasy is far older still.
Oh obviously. I didn't mean to imply that these new franchises did it first. Just that there's been a lot of it in major franchises in recent years, and it's gotten a bit tiring.

But from what I've seen of this take on Icewind Dale, it looks like a lot of fun!
 

Ancalagon

Dusty Dragon
So erm...

Would this be what maximums security looks like for a city like Waterdeep with its powerful mages? Such a facility would be very costly to operate but still be vulnerable to attack. If these people are so dangerous... why keep them alive?

The art is cool, it's good for an adventure, but the basic concept seems unsound...
 

Mercador

Explorer
So erm...

Would this be what maximums security looks like for a city like Waterdeep with its powerful mages? Such a facility would be very costly to operate but still be vulnerable to attack. If these people are so dangerous... why keep them alive?

The art is cool, it's good for an adventure, but the basic concept seems unsound...
Well, let's say you want to imprison immortals? Sorcerers able to cheat death? Maybe a prison with anti magic devices could be an usage. For others, prisons for 50+ years is worse than a quick death.
 

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