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If 4th Edition didn't use the "D&D" moniker...
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WyzardWhately
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Nah, not likely. I'm going to end up with it because D&D is the lingua franca of our hobby.
arscott
First Post
Maybe. To me, it looks like a fun game that I would love to play. But I'm not going to buy a game unless I'm sure that I can get other people to play with me, especially not a $105 game.
The fact that it's Dungeons & Dragons means that I know I'll get my money's worth when I buy the books, only because of brand recognition and because of WotC's organized play. But if Green Ronin was publishing it and charging $105 for necessary books, then I'd be sticking with 3.5 or SWSE.
The fact that it's Dungeons & Dragons means that I know I'll get my money's worth when I buy the books, only because of brand recognition and because of WotC's organized play. But if Green Ronin was publishing it and charging $105 for necessary books, then I'd be sticking with 3.5 or SWSE.
Fallen Seraph
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arscott said:
If you pre-order from Amazon the slip-case set of all 3 is only $76.
Samuel Leming
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I voted 'no', but was fairly close to a 'yes'.
Actually, I'd be more likely to buy 4e is it wasn't branded as D&D. It looks like a fun game, but from what I've seen doesn't look like it's set up for the kind of play I'm looking for from D&D. When playing D&D, I want to make decisions based upon the situation in the game world and what my character would naturally do in that situation. 4e looks to be a game based around making decisions based on rules utility and metagame logic. Why can a Fighter only use Brute Strike once per day?
If I knew of a group of good folk playing 4e, I'd want in whether it's called D&D or not. When 4e comes out, I'll examine the system to see if it supports tradition sim type play. If it doesn't I'll stick with already existing sim systems like C&C, M&M, True20, Spycraft, nWoD, Scion, Savage Worlds, etc. etc.
We'll see. I'm holding out hope that 4e will have more support for traditional D&D type play than we've been shown so far. I'm disappointed that WotC is holding back the GSL for the last dozen weeks. I know that Necromancer, Goodman, and Green Ronin would support traditional sim play, so this delay is decreasing my confidence that 4e can fit my gaming style.
Sam
Actually, I'd be more likely to buy 4e is it wasn't branded as D&D. It looks like a fun game, but from what I've seen doesn't look like it's set up for the kind of play I'm looking for from D&D. When playing D&D, I want to make decisions based upon the situation in the game world and what my character would naturally do in that situation. 4e looks to be a game based around making decisions based on rules utility and metagame logic. Why can a Fighter only use Brute Strike once per day?
If I knew of a group of good folk playing 4e, I'd want in whether it's called D&D or not. When 4e comes out, I'll examine the system to see if it supports tradition sim type play. If it doesn't I'll stick with already existing sim systems like C&C, M&M, True20, Spycraft, nWoD, Scion, Savage Worlds, etc. etc.
We'll see. I'm holding out hope that 4e will have more support for traditional D&D type play than we've been shown so far. I'm disappointed that WotC is holding back the GSL for the last dozen weeks. I know that Necromancer, Goodman, and Green Ronin would support traditional sim play, so this delay is decreasing my confidence that 4e can fit my gaming style.
Sam
PeterWeller
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Yeah, I would. I tried a lot of different systems after becoming disillusioned with Second Edition, and I came back to D&D because I felt Third did what I wanted my rules to do better than any other system I tried. I was glad it was badged, "D&D," simply because I was glad to see that D&D, the first RPG I played, was again the best (IMHO, obviously) RPG available, but I still felt it was a very different game than the D&D I loved and eventually grew tired of. Fourth Edition looks like it's going to repeat Third Edition's feat; it's going to be the system that best supports the game I want to play, and it will be badged as Dungeons & Dragons, which will make me feel warm and fuzzy because I'm continuing a tradition I began when I was nine.
Now, there's the obvious fact that calling the game, "D&D" makes me automatically aware of it and interested in it. That's not necessarily going to be true with other games. Unless it's based on a license I'm interested in or produced by a developer or publisher I respect, I probably won't become aware of it. There's also the fact that, while 4E is a very different game than 3E, there's still a large amount of continuity in terminology and concept that dates back to the earliest editions of D&D. That makes me comfortable, and while that would still exist whether or not 4E was badged, "D&D," the fact that it is D&D Fourth Edition makes those concepts and terms more evident and obvious. There's no, "Y is X from D&D, but we can't call it X because of copyright or trademark concerns."
I'm sure there's a very good chance that my "perfect" fantasy RPG lies on the bottom shelf somewhere accumulating dust, and because it doesn't have a name I recognize attached to it, and no one has recommended that I check it out, I'm never going to play it. All I know for sure is that after playing BECMI, 1E, 2E, 3E, 3.5E, RQ, RM, GURPS, T&T, HM, C&C, Palladium (gasp! really, I did; feel pity), C&C, Earthdawn, WHFRP, three different versions of LotR, and a dozen other systems I can't remember, 4E is shaping up to do what I want my rules to do best.
Now, there's the obvious fact that calling the game, "D&D" makes me automatically aware of it and interested in it. That's not necessarily going to be true with other games. Unless it's based on a license I'm interested in or produced by a developer or publisher I respect, I probably won't become aware of it. There's also the fact that, while 4E is a very different game than 3E, there's still a large amount of continuity in terminology and concept that dates back to the earliest editions of D&D. That makes me comfortable, and while that would still exist whether or not 4E was badged, "D&D," the fact that it is D&D Fourth Edition makes those concepts and terms more evident and obvious. There's no, "Y is X from D&D, but we can't call it X because of copyright or trademark concerns."
I'm sure there's a very good chance that my "perfect" fantasy RPG lies on the bottom shelf somewhere accumulating dust, and because it doesn't have a name I recognize attached to it, and no one has recommended that I check it out, I'm never going to play it. All I know for sure is that after playing BECMI, 1E, 2E, 3E, 3.5E, RQ, RM, GURPS, T&T, HM, C&C, Palladium (gasp! really, I did; feel pity), C&C, Earthdawn, WHFRP, three different versions of LotR, and a dozen other systems I can't remember, 4E is shaping up to do what I want my rules to do best.
Li Shenron
Legend
If it wasn't called D&D, we wouldn't even be discussing it this much. We'd have a few threads at best, just like other games, even the most successful ones like Iron Heroes or Arcana Unearthed. I don't think those who voted "yes" can really believe they'd give the same credit to the game if it wasn't called D&D: most of us would be ignoring it and would still wait for 4e.
