If an OGC Wiki existed . . .

[Vascant]

Think about it, you are talking about a majority of people who hate even creating another registration on another forum, who won't take the time to search the countless sites for information. While I won't touch your knowledge of gaming, your knowledge of people seems to be lacking and kind of seems to the point you think "Everyone" is out to hurt your business. As I said in the other thread, people are lazy you can count on it. Your PDF's are spread all over the internet already and yet, you seem to be doing fine.

Fact: OGL Wiki will be a dead idea once people realize the work involved to maintain it..

Heck, I don't even have the time to read the books I buy, nevermind keep up some kind of resource for them.

 

[Yair]

Fact: OGL Wiki will be a dead idea once people realize the work involved to maintain it...

No. It will begin with a flurry, then the activity will falter, and then it will settle into a regime of slow, occasional and sporadic, updates. It will then pick up steam after accruing more content, exponentially.
Until the system changes. Then all the rules are broken. Since the time to 4e is relatively short, it is possible the wiki will never reach the exponential stage.

Assuming a stable site, there is simply no reason the wiki won't keep on being there, and will by its nature only grow.
See the d20 NPC wiki which you derided earlier. It still gets almost regular updates. Does its growth equal it's initial growth? I doubt it. But it didn't die, and it certainly didn't go away. There is no where to go away too. An online site is largely there to stay, for years.

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

I like supporting companies that produce good product.

This is important for me too, and completely rational, considering that if you pay someone for the first thing they did that you liked, you'll probably get more stuff you like from them in the future. The best way to get someone to ignore your taste in game supplements is to not buy anything from them.

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

No. It will begin with a flurry, then the activity will falter, and then it will settle into a regime of slow, occasional and sporadic, updates. It will then pick up steam after accruing more content, exponentially.
Until the system changes. Then all the rules are broken. Since the time to 4e is relatively short, it is possible the wiki will never reach the exponential stage.

Assuming a stable site, there is simply no reason the wiki won't keep on being there, and will by its nature only grow.
See the d20 NPC wiki which you derided earlier. It still gets almost regular updates. Does its growth equal it's initial growth? I doubt it. But it didn't die, and it certainly didn't go away. There is no where to go away too. An online site is largely there to stay, for years.

I post on it from time to time. I'd post more, but I'm currently only running an Arcana Evolved game. If I start another standard D&D game, it'll see more updates from me.

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

To be blunt, I find that view a little paranoid. I'm sure there'd be sturm und drang about making it happen, but when it comes time to actually do all that work, I doubt much would get done.

If such a theoretical group existed, I think they would've built the wiki and started doing that by now. What's to stop them?

Yeah, because we all loooove to do data entry for no pay and no thanks on material that can actually turn out to be copyrighted and get us sued if we make errors in our attribution of open and closed content in a document. I don't see a grassroots movement for transcribing "everything OGC under the sun" appearing anytime soon.

 

[Nellisir]

No. It will begin with a flurry, then the activity will falter, and then it will settle into a regime of slow, occasional and sporadic, updates. It will then pick up steam after accruing more content, exponentially.
Until the system changes. Then all the rules are broken. Since the time to 4e is relatively short, it is possible the wiki will never reach the exponential stage.

Assuming a stable site, there is simply no reason the wiki won't keep on being there, and will by its nature only grow.
See the d20 NPC wiki which you derided earlier. It still gets almost regular updates. Does its growth equal it's initial growth? I doubt it. But it didn't die, and it certainly didn't go away. There is no where to go away too. An online site is largely there to stay, for years.

I think I'll just add "What Yair said" to my sig. It'll save so much posting time.

I quit posting to the NPC Wiki because I quit running a game, and I don't usually create stat blocks for fun. I expect to start posting again around January.

And I said "Yes" on the poll. I expect some of my purchases will suffer, and others will pick up. Right now I buy very little from Ronin Arts -- the "Dozen" line of stuff has always been too eclectic for me; I don't do spell components; etc, etc, so it could only go up from there.

 

[Mercule]

I doubt it would change my buying much, and definitely not in a negative way. I just like the feel of dead trees -- which is one of the reasons I don't do much with PDFs as it is.

The most likely scenario is that I'd look at it and maybe crib a couple of minor mechanics (like a class defense bonus or some such). Things that I could have iandered into B&N, thumbed through the book(s) in a semi-random manner and remember pretty much indefinitely. If there was something that was more involved than that I wanted to use, I'd actually be inclined to go get the book.

 

[Sledge]

hrmmm wording on the poll isn't probably as I mean, but I voted yes, because I like buying books that I can use easily. I still want to buy the books for the art and layout etc. However I would like to have the ogc clearly available. What I would really enjoy would be publisher hosted wikis of their own materials. So if I buy the book I get access to a wiki site. I also really like the idea of wikis to showcase rules structures. Things that would be inspirational.

 

[Psion]

Y'know, I used to be a real big advocate of an open content repository.

Nowadays, the fire is gone. Not sure why. I guess the reason that I really wanted an open content repository was 1) to get things into electronic format so I could manipulate it in my game notes, and 2) to get it in electronic support products like PCgen. #1 has faded since I make most of my initial purchases in PDF anyways. #2 has faded primarily because my faith in affordable electronic support has faded.

I guess a third strike would be that I could see it causing an increase in "stingy OGL" and crippled OGL, a phenomenon I find frustrating when I find a resource I use a lot and would be worth recasting in notes that might not remain totally private, but many of the concepts I draw from are not fully or conveniently open.

I don't think the existence of one would influence my decision, at least not directly. That is to say, if I saw something there that came from a product, actually seeing the material as written might turn me off to the product or interest me in it. Sort of like getting free samples on a toothpick in a grocery store. And just like the grocery store, while some pigs will take advantage of it, I wouldn't.

 

[BryonD]

Well, looks like I was wrong on how this would go.
I'm surprised.
But if the poll is meaningful, then that is good.