D&D 5E If "Extra Attack" Was A Feat, What Would Its Prerequisites Be?

[JasonZZ]

10th level, martial proficiency and at least two maneuvers, only usable (proficiency bonus) times per long rest.

When you make an attack action, you may use a bonus action to make a second attack.

Yes, it's far slower and far inferior to the real thing; that's the point. I wouldn't give the fighter's core abilities to a caster for just a feat any more than I'd give full spellcasting to a fighter for just a feat.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I will always push back against caster supremacy, and doubly so against proposals that EXACERBATE that problem. The disrespect was 100% intentional. Cope.

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This fails.

Don’t post like this again.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Dont play around with stupid convoluted prereqs.

I'm pretty sure a number of 5e feats have a very stupid ability score gate.

 

[mellored]

I'm pretty sure a number of 5e feats have a very stupid ability score gate.

I feel those are mainly to guide new players.

Defensive Dualist requiring 13 Dex is a way to reinforce using it with a Finesse weapons.

So you don't have a 20 Str paladin with a great axe picking it up and switching to a dagger.

I would allow any of my players to ignore that.

 

[CleverNickName]

10th level, martial proficiency and at least two maneuvers, only usable (proficiency bonus) times per long rest.

When you make an attack action, you may use a bonus action to make a second attack.

Yes, it's far slower and far inferior to the real thing; that's the point. I wouldn't give the fighter's core abilities to a caster for just a feat any more than I'd give full spellcasting to a fighter for just a feat.

Well, a few things come to mind:

• It's not a core ability of the Fighter. Extra Attack is a feature that is available to Barbarians, certain Bards and Clerics, Fighters, Monks, Paladins, Rangers, certain Warlocks, certain Artificers...
• I wouldn't give full spellcasting to a fighter for just a feat either. That's why this feat does nothing of the sort.
• Setting the prerequisites as high as you are doing here would guarantee that players would just dip a few levels of (Insert Class Here) instead, which is what I'm trying to dissuade them from doing.
• I thought you could already make an off-hand attack as a Bonus action if the off-hand weapon was light. Have I been doing it wrong?

 

[TwoSix]

I thought you could already make an off-hand attack as a Bonus action if the off-hand weapon was light. Have I been doing it wrong?

Being able to make a 2nd weapon attack with your main weapon, one that is more likely to be magical and also to benefit from stacking damage feats like Great Weapon Master and Sharpshooter, is a MUCH bigger boon that the light weapon attack from dual-wielding.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Well, a few things come to mind:

• It's not a core ability of the Fighter. Extra Attack is a feature that is available to Barbarians, certain Bards and Clerics, Fighters, Monks, Paladins, Rangers, certain Warlocks, certain Artificers...

Because to many, Fighter isn't a class. It's a tutorial.

 

[CleverNickName]

Being able to make a 2nd weapon attack with your main weapon, one that is more likely to be magical and also to benefit from stacking damage feats like Great Weapon Master and Sharpshooter, is a MUCH bigger boon that the light weapon attack from dual-wielding.

I agree it's a boon, but I think we disagree on how much of a boon it is. I think it's approximately equal to a feat.

 

[TwoSix]

I agree it's a boon, but I think we disagree on how much of a boon it is. I think it's approximately equal to a feat.

So do I! I'm on your side on this thread, man.

 

[CleverNickName]

So do I! I'm on your side on this thread, man.

Sorry, sorry! I'm getting distracted by all the off-topics and hyperbole. Couldn't see the forest for the feat-trees.