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Signed. I want the original trilogy back, although I can stand to have both OT and SE versions; I liked em both, although I liked the original trilogy more, the Special Edition ones are the ones I got to watch in theaters(I was born in 1983, too late to go see the films).
 
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I'd sign it if I believed things like Internet petitions made any difference. *shrug*

When I go back and watch the original trilogy, I see some of the things that the newer films are accused of: Bad dialogue, bad acting to name but two. Witness Mark Hamil! It's no surprise that he's not exactly been a shining light of Hollywood since Star Wars*.

Episode 1 and 2 (and probably 3) will remain pretty much the same to me. Decent, fun films with some annoying bits but great visual events. And the newer fight scenes are so much better than the original trilogies efforts. I'm looking forward to Ep 3. It'll have some bad bits, but will also have some extremely good bits.

*note: I love Mark Hamil as a voice actor, and wish him every sucess as such. But he's not got enough screen presence to be a film actor.
 

francisca said:
I felt the same way, but I wrote off the disappointment based on two factors:
1) You can never go back "home", as it were.
2) I'm not 8 anymore.

What I mean is that it's a rare occurence (at least in my life) that repeated experiences live up to the initial experience in terms of enjoyment. This is especially true with entertainment, whether it is books or movies. Sure there are exceptions, but they are not the rule.

As for #2, if I were 8 when Ep 1 or the re-edits came out, they may well have had the same impact on me as Ep 4 did in 1977. But since then, my tastes and expectations have changed as I've morphed into an OLD FART (TM). At any rate, while some of the changes to the original trilogy really bugged me (ahem, Greedo), they didn't ruin the movies for me either. I just have different expectations than I did when I was 8. The re-edits were a nice way to see the originals in the theatre once again, and nothing more.

The only problem that I have with this argument is that adults flocked to the original films just as much as children did.

THAT is what made them classics, they appealed to people from a broad range of demographics. They didn't just appeal to children.

Unfortunately the same cannot be said of the new films.
 

Tallarn said:
When I go back and watch the original trilogy, I see some of the things that the newer films are accused of: Bad dialogue, bad acting to name but two. Witness Mark Hamil! It's no surprise that he's not exactly been a shining light of Hollywood since Star Wars*.

<snip>

*note: I love Mark Hamil as a voice actor, and wish him every sucess as such. But he's not got enough screen presence to be a film actor.
I actually thought he was really good in Walking Across Egypt, but since I'm one of about 20 people who saw that film, it probably didn't help his career much. :)
 

Olive said:
I signed, but has anyone ever heard of an internet petition having any effect?

Well, it's baseball related. The General Manager of the New York Mets said that a petition signed by so many Mets fans helped the Mets sign Mike Piazza to a 7 year deal.


Anyway, I signed this petition, and I see nothing wrong with Lucas releasing different versions. He can release the original version as well as this new, hyped up version, and bring in even more $$$.
 

I'm one of those who desperately wants to see the original version of the original trilogy on DVD, and yes, I've signed petitions to that effect.

But given the most recent idiocy on Lucas' part, where he refused to let a film festival show the original version of Star Wars during a historical retrospective of film (see this article at Aint It Cool News), I can't imagine it's going to happen anytime soon. :(
 

Brannon, I'm sorry, but I can't bring myself to sign it.

You already know this, but one of the things that really bothers me about fans is the fact that somewhere along the line they get the notion that because you entertained them, you owe them something. Like many of you, Star Wars absolutely made a difference in my life. I watched it for the first time when I was 5. I was on the edge of my seat throughout Empire Strikes back when I was 8, and one of my childhood friends and I saw the movie every other day when I was 11. I collected Star Wars figures, read the books, had the Darth Vader halloween costume. It helped make me the geek I am today.

Later on in life I read the expanded universe novels, bought the RPG, and otherwise enjoyed the various aspects of this multi-media monster. In 2001 I was brought on to WotC to work the Star Wars fan club, thus getting my first foot in the door there. At first I was happy to be there, and then a couple months into it I realized two very important things: 1) You will not be able to make every fan happy. 2) For some reason many fans have this sense that because a work changed their life, they should have a say in its future.

So, most movie producers will take their great inspired work, add some additional back stage stuff, out-takes, or deleted scenes, stick them on a disc, and then put it out there. Lucas sees himself as more of an artist and he has a universe he wants to bring to life. The more elements that he can include, the more complete it is for him. If, when he puts it out there, people like it, then that's great. If they don't, well, that's alright too. And I can totally respect him for that.

One of the reasons that I feel this way is that over the course of many years I've written things - stories, RPGs, web articles, etc. In some cases when I finish them and turn them in to the editor, I'm completely happy with them. In other cases maybe I hit a creative snag, maybe I didn't have the time, or maybe I didn't have the space, but for whatever reason I wasn't completely happy with it - definitely not ashamed of it, but not dancing up and down feeling like I nailed it. Lucas, despite having created a classic, feels the same way and I can't fault him for it.

Besides, has anyone actually gone back and watched the originals recently? Remember those oddly colored boxes surrounding the space ships? Remember the little dots leaving Yavin IV in much too rapid succession? Remember all the plain white walls in Cloud CIty? What about the fact that you can literally see the terrain through the borders of the canopy in the snowspeeders? Those were blemishes that don't need to be there. I like the most recent versions. Sure, I would change back the part where Greedo shoots first, and restore the Ewok song at the end of Jedi, and maybe I wouldn't have made Jabba look quite so much like a frog in New Hope, but otherwise I'm a happy camper. More importantly though, we now have the creative vision Lucas wanted, for better or for worse. If he's embarrassed by the originals and he owns them, its his decision to bury them. If fans don't like it, at least they still have their video tapes.
 
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Baraendur said:
More importantly though, we now have the creative vision Lucas wanted,
Greedo shooting isn't what he always wanted, or they would have filmed it that way in 1977. Ditto for Luke screaming during his fall in Cloud City. That's revisionism, plain and simple, and most certainly for the worse.

As for the petition, bah, I've pretty much let go of the Star Wars I knew as existing on anything beyond my THX laserdiscs. Thank God for LOTR.
 

Kai Lord said:
Greedo shooting isn't what he always wanted, or they would have filmed it that way in 1977. Ditto for Luke screaming during his fall in Cloud City. That's revisionism, plain and simple, and most certainly for the worse.

Point. I'll give you that.

But from the list of changes I've read (posted somewhere to the Internet, don't ask me where), those are two things that will be restored to their original forms.
 

Baraendur said:
Point. I'll give you that.

But from the list of changes I've read (posted somewhere to the Internet, don't ask me where), those are two things that will be restored to their original forms.
No kidding? Rumor has it George will undo some of his revisions in the SE's? That would be awesome. I never had a problem with the SE's as far as updating the effects went, I just wished he hadn't made the little character changes here and there.

Plus a lot of the new effects actually created continuity errors of their own.
 

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